I think what many people are missing is that many endgame events take hours to set up, sometimes more. Communication is vital during those times. Most people are not going to stare at the screen for 2 hours while a guild raid ( or whatever ff14 endgame has in store ) gets setup. Running back to the comp to hit the space bar every 20 minutes... is fairly retarded. Also if the endgame events end up anything like ff11 ... 2 hours for group setup would be nothing. Imagine trying to organize a saturday dyna run with a 30 min logout feature.. lol