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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkine View Post
    This is ok as long as its temporary.

    2 weeks from now when everything is sorted out and 50% of the players move on @ charging day, it better be removed.

    Why? There is no benefit to removing it and every benefit to keep it.

    I love how all the unwanted players come crying out of the woodwork when they are forced to stop their misbehavior. ^_^
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    Brady Phelan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkine View Post
    This is ok as long as its temporary.

    2 weeks from now when everything is sorted out and 50% of the players move on @ charging day, it better be removed.
    Can you explain your reasoning? Why would anyone ever want this removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnesia View Post
    Can you explain your reasoning? Why would anyone ever want this removed?
    Very simply. There are some mobs now - on rather long timers, FC's could use a single mule in each relevant area, so they'd be able to know if the boss spawned in the FC's downtime. Which would mean - that knowing if the spawn was down, the mob could be ignored for a period of time.

    Given there's only a few (zones - two bosses currently) that are important at the moment, this usage is somewhat limited at the moment, but given SE's propensity for bosses of this modus operandi, I expect to see more and more important ones in the forseeable future.
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    Pilwick Grizmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel_Mourningwood View Post
    Very simply. There are some mobs now - on rather long timers, FC's could use a single mule in each relevant area, so they'd be able to know if the boss spawned in the FC's downtime. Which would mean - that knowing if the spawn was down, the mob could be ignored for a period of time.

    Given there's only a few (zones - two bosses currently) that are important at the moment, this usage is somewhat limited at the moment, but given SE's propensity for bosses of this modus operandi, I expect to see more and more important ones in the forseeable future.
    So please explain what difference the 5 extra seconds to log in and see if the mob is up would make? Does that 5 extra seconds really mean killing or not killing said world mob?

    Even in this situation I see no point in adding the extra server stress and load that afkers add, just to save someone the effort of pushing 0 two times and waiting 5-10 seconds to load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lythium View Post
    So please explain what difference the 5 extra seconds to log in and see if the mob is up would make? Does that 5 extra seconds really mean killing or not killing said world mob?

    Even in this situation I see no point in adding the extra server stress and load that afkers add, just to save someone the effort of pushing 0 two times and waiting 5-10 seconds to load.
    Okay - scenario: FC as a whole goes to bed. Be that at 11pm, 1am 3am. Whatever. People with mule would leave mule in area, and filter chats so that they'd see if certain spawns happened or not. Game starts up when people start waking up/logging in - mule owner would be able to say: "Aye - this spawned last night or nay - no spawn, expect a pop today".

    Fairly common practice when dealing with stuff that has a very extended repop - you can't just zone in for certain FATES to see if they are up when they're on a 2 day cycle. Was done fairly heavily in XI too.

    To be honest, the whole deal with afk'ers was a problem when the server capacity issue was a major problem (when logging out meant you were almost guaranteed to be unable to get back in). Now that it's being dealt with - and will become less of an issue when subscriptions hit - the "need" for this feature is a bit late, and now is a punishment to organised FC's.

    Edit: All that will happen now is that people will leave macro's running on a keyboard every 20 minutes or so, or leave themselves running against a wall for their mules.
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    Last edited by Gabriel_Mourningwood; 09-13-2013 at 01:29 AM.

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    That didn't take long
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    C'mell Cordwainer
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    After all the time we spent asking for it, I don't think anyone will hop on board this train.
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    J'eko Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Really? In this day and age? I guess my expectations for SE are too high.
    I guess my expectations of the common sense of max level/legacy players in this day and age were a little too high, too.



    (Pssst: your post is bad and you should feel bad.)
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    Linthiel Veyvictus
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    i cant help but wonder if its the gil sellers who are angry about this
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    Elrya Tk
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    So OP is saying he liked everyone standing around for days inside a city, dropping everyones frames? AM I BEING TROLLED!?
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