Amdapor Keep and Wanderer's Palace Adjustments

[charlemagne]

What the hell has the fact that it isn't an intended strategy got to do with anything? Just because it wasn't the devs intended strategy doesn't mean it shouldn't be ours.
You put up a challenge and we were beating it. But because we were beating it in the way we wanted, by using our brains and coming up with a better strategy than you, you change it.
This is the development equivalent of a kid taking his ball away in a sulk when he's losing a game. Very badly played SE, very badly played.

[Nero]

At this point SE should bring back 1.0 SpeedRuns.

Beat Rooms full of Mobs to activate Doors, clear out Mobs to higher the Droprate of the Chest's. Kill less mobs = less Tombstones in the End.
You do not beat a Dungeon in a certain Time? Too bad for you, no Drop.

[Usotsuki]

Sigh, so instead of addressing the real issue (killing trash is not rewarding in any sense of the word), they simply band-aid fix the symptoms. Can't say I didn't see this coming from a mile away, but it's still disappointing that they didn't think this through properly.

Simple said, this. People are not doing it how we meant to do it, it's totally not our fault... fix without fixing the problem, that will teach them. *sigh*

[TheNeoReaper]

Whats funny about all this is wants the 30 day trail is over. Most of the servers will be ghost towns. Is this how there going to fix 1017?

[Exphryl]

I just don't understand, mechanically, why trash doesn't have a purpose. While leveling you kill trash for decent Experience, nobody cares if you want to clear everything, there is a genuine benefit for the entire group.

When you hit max level there is no longer a purpose to the trash. I've never played an MMO before (I didn't play FF11 or FFXIV 1.0 so it might have been different), that didn't have a benefit to trash. They dropped loot, or random high quality gear specific to that instance/dungeon. They dropped gold/gil. They were worthwhile doing, or they even dropped some rare crafting materials people needed.

Another thing they could do is dailies, which they are talking about, but make a repeatable quest for each instance where somebody requires you to kill 10/10 of a mob or something that you can clearly only do if you clear the instance. However on turn in you get either a good amount of Gil/ Tomes or what not.

There NEEDS to be incentive to kill things, just farming ToM at the end is not one of them. This is a time sink, a wasteful time sink with zero purpose and is a detriment to the gaming experience in FFXIV 2.0.

[Wobi]

What the hell has the fact that it isn't an intended strategy got to do with anything? Just because it wasn't the devs intended strategy doesn't mean it shouldn't be ours.
You put up a challenge and we were beating it. But because we were beating it in the way we wanted, by using our brains and coming up with a better strategy than you, you change it.
This is the development equivalent of a kid taking his ball away in a sulk when he's losing a game. Very badly played SE, very badly played.

You never fought AV in FFXI did you? Saw this coming, also their house, their rules.

[gigi_frana]

good news.

[Suirieko]

Okaaay Lol.

Third leg. HAve to kill EVERY. SINGLE. MOBS. to open the boos doors. (all mobs on upper floor)

[Kaliska]

All they really had to do was to make the amount of tokens you got comparable to the percentage of mobs you killed. The more mobs you killed the more tokens you get at the end of the run. Then if people wanted to speed run it for less they could and if people wanted to clear everything they got extra incentive.

Adding the crafting mats to trash mobs too (like potash/peacock ore etc) would have been a nice touch.

[charlemagne]

I think my post in another thread on the subject of ak is relevent to this.

Takes over 3200 tomestones of mythology for a set of AF2 for one job. We get 40 per run from AK and can collect 300 total in a week. How does SE expect us to gear enough of our jobs to allow us the flexibility to make parties for the highest level content?
SE already introduced the unicorn because not enough people played whm. How many players who would have had whm geared as a second choice job will now not be available for high end content because of this gate on getting gear?
"Sure guys I can switch to whm to help the party, just give me another three months of running this dungeon for eight hours a week to get gear and we're good to go."
Ridiculous.