Ampador Keep Nonsense.

[Meera]

I'm a whm with Ifrits cane and the DL sash, but I understand my accessories need some work. Needed to clear AK for about 4 days now.

First time in queue, Tank says "Speed run right?" I said "Sure, but this is my first time". Tank drops without saying a word.

I went to Mor Dhona, saw a person shout "AK speed run LF WHM" I /tell him "I'm a whm, but I havent done it before, can I come?" no response, but the shout changed to "AK Speed run LF experienced WHM"

Finally after going into queue for another 90 min or so, I got another pug, this time I told the Tank "Its my first time please let me try" And Anisa Azinna, awesome pld from who knows where, actually said "Ok! Here is what we do" and showed me the dungeon. Died twice on demon wall, and died 3 times on the boss, but I got the hang of it and cleared it once I learned the fights.

This game can be very discouraging and elitist at times, but there are still some nice people out there willing to let others learn the ropes ^^

[Kitsune]

Those type of tanks are hard to come by these days. I've ran into a few thankfully. I just want to say thank you to all those tanks that don't bail out on groups for that reason.

[Alassea]

Those type of tanks are hard to come by these days. I've ran into a few thankfully. I just want to say thank you to all those tanks that don't bail out on groups for that reason.

Just gotta pipe in here, that its not just Tanks who do this. I've had healers do the same thing because certain members were there for the first time, or didn't know how to do a speed run. As a tank, I try to explain things, but if a healer drops immediately because its not a Speed Run, its just as annoying.

I do agree that there's too much elitism when it comes to running AK, however. I'd rather just get through it, than worry myself if its a speed run. Better to get it done, than keep dropping groups and waiting for debuff to wear before going back in.

[Bluesnacks]

When I level cap my tank I will specifically be advertising for new healers only for this reason for a while..It'll be frustrating but some of this elitist stuff is ridiculous.

I know I'm a good healer, but I also had trouble finding a group on my WHM

[TheWitcher]

Blame the developers not the people who dont want to waste time, if the developers were smart enough to require you to clear trash first then this wouldnt be a issue

[Ceol]

Blame the developers not the people who dont want to waste time, if the developers were smart enough to require you to clear trash first then this wouldnt be a issue

How about we blame both? Just because the developers made an oversight doesn't give you carte blanche to be an asshole.

Dropping immediately without even attempting the run is a huge dick move and should not be excused.

[AyaAkali]

Blame the developers not the people who dont want to waste time, if the developers were smart enough to require you to clear trash first then this wouldnt be a issue

Exploiters will always find exploits. They already removed trash "leashes" from beta for this reason, quit making excuses for yourself.

[Sziadan]

Blame the developers not the people who dont want to waste time, if the developers were smart enough to require you to clear trash first then this wouldnt be a issue

What are you talking about?
He said he was ok with a speedrun (as in skipping trash), the people bailed on him because he was new to the dungeon and not because he weren't ok with a speedrun.


Btw, me and a friend were in a similar situation when we first got to lvl 50 (we were well geared as well for new lvl 50s, with all gear >45).
We decided to try out The Wanderer's Palace, me as WHM and my friend as PLD. We got 2 legacy players and told them "We haven't tried out this dungeon yet so if there's anything special to watch out for here then please tell us.", and they just went "LOL, it's impossible to do this if you're new! And your gear is way too low" then they just left. We hadn't even moved from the starting spot..

We did get 2 new players almost right after though and then went on and cleared it with them instead.
People are just morons if they don't give people a chance even.

[CassTristesse]

Yea I was doing story dungeons the last 2.. and people wanted everyone to skip cutscenes when some people wanted to watch, me included. Also during one of the bosses the other healer was still watching a cut scene and the tank pulled the boss, lucky it wasnt one of the harder ones.

Really do wish people would stop being selfish and realize they arent the only ones that matter.

[Sheva]

Yea I was doing story dungeons the last 2.. and people wanted everyone to skip cutscenes when some people wanted to watch, me included. Also during one of the bosses the other healer was still watching a cut scene and the tank pulled the boss, lucky it wasnt one of the harder ones.

Really do wish people would stop being selfish and realize they arent the only ones that matter.

Like you I enjoy watching the cut scenes but while people are watching them the timer for the dungeon is still ticking away. If it wasn't for that I'm fairly sure people would not mind waiting for those that want to see the entire story.