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    Yenn's Avatar
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    Why is SMN DPS so high?

    Serious question. It seems to be the highest in the game right now.
    With Amdapor Keep gear and relic weapon, I'm consistently pulling around 250 DPS on all primals. Other classes with similar gear are capping out around 160-180.

    Should other classes maybe be brought up a bit, and SMN brought down a little? Unless AoE is required, there isn't much reason to not take 2 SMN + 2 BRD or 3 SMN + 1 BRD.


    EDIT: Because this thread is a cesspool of retardation, I just spent 10 minutes at Coerthas, writing down the damage values. Criticals were omitted.
    Ruin averaged 177.3 damage, 2.3 second cast
    Bio + Bio II + Miasma averaged 260 damage, every 2 seconds (this included criticals).
    Fester averaged 659.7 every 20 seconds
    Garuda averaged 177.4 every 3 seconds

    This totals 299.19 DPS. This is not including 10% crit rate, though some time is spent re-applying DoTs.

    This is in line with what parsers are showing, accounting for time casts are interrupted to move, the bosses are invulnerable, and reapplying DoTs.
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    Last edited by Yenn; 09-09-2013 at 12:44 PM.

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    Eristina Mvp
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Hi,
    I use a parser, but i can't fucking look in the details and understand my dps.
    So i don't understand why i'm so high and mb there's something bugged.

    But better post on forum ill be a star
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    Gaius Valerius
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Wait.... huh? Summoner dps being high? Am I dreaming or is this a joke? Sorry but were currently lower tier dps. Others can disagree but most, if not all the other dps classes out dmg us currently. And no dont say bad player. Has to do with skills doing shit dmg, too long of a ramp up time to get our dmg going and lack of pet dmg.
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    Astralis Luneglade
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Hmmm i dont have relic weapon and only have af armor. But im pretty sure i deal around 300+ dps


    Summoners are the weakest among dps classes right now so pls stop trolling
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    Eristina Mvp
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    The parser is bugged, it wasnt taking into account Bio I & II. Now it does but wrong amount. It count Both of them for 100+ dps, and it's wrong, they are at ~50 dps.
    Pet is 50 dps.
    SMN is 70-100 dps without bio taken into account.
    So a smn dps is around 180, like every other dps class.

    Read details and understand the game before claiming false shit.
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Uh what? I added my damage break down, from the battle log and floating text, in the main post. This was tested on dummies on Coerthas.
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    Last edited by Yenn; 09-09-2013 at 12:11 PM.

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    Kajuana Stillwater
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    Fenrir
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    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    Nice to know that summoners aren't as bad as people say it is.

    Not sure if it is highest dps, because we don't have proper parsers and we don't have other similar geared 50s writing down numbers on pen.
    Easiest way to test is if we get same geared 50s to attack a dummy for 3 min. ;d
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Astralis View Post
    Hmmm i dont have relic weapon and only have af armor. But im pretty sure i deal around 300+ dps


    Summoners are the weakest among dps classes right now so pls stop trolling
    dps = damage per second. you aren't doing 300 damage every second because of the 2.5 second global cooldown.
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    Hov Rp
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    Serious question. It seems to be the highest in the game right now.

    This is in line with what parsers are showing, accounting for time casts are interrupted to move, the bosses are invulnerable, and reapplying DoTs.
    All dots tick every 3 secs. With your shitty logic/test that would give you 250 dps assuming 100% uptime on all of your moves which is impossible because you cant cast all your spells at once. Just because your ruin does 177 avg dmg per cast with a 2.3 sec cast time doesnt mean it will do 77 dps for the whole fight Because in a fight youre not casting it 100% of the time one after another. For this reason even in a vacuum 250dps with those numbers isnt possible. Now add this to a boss fight where youre running o avoid aoe or phases where the boss goes invulnerable to dmg and your dps takes an even bigger hit. Top it off with human error and youre nowhere near 300dps fuck youre lucky if youre still looking at 180.
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    Bauchelain Md
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    So now all should welcome a SMN for the Demon Wall!
    or not.
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