Healers: Leading the party. Anybody else?

[Kurauk]

I wouldn't like to tarnish every tank with the same brush, because I have had a literal two amazing tanks, I am also sure there are many other tanks out there that are also good at there chosen class. However the rest of the tanks I have had in dungeons have been absolutely shocking.

I had one that point blank refused to accepted that I had three adds hitting me which killed me. He said he "had agro" on everything because he checked the "traffic light system", apparently meaning I died to thin air and those three mobs were a figment of my imagination. Since then I have been a bit more forward with making sure the tank picks up adds.

[Kusumura]

as Ranged dps i dont mind calling things , healers have already a hard job as its , having to watch the game and the UI (health bars + debuffs) is more than enough , if healers have to lead on top of that :X

You're that one in a million DPS that takes after my own heart that I absolutely love and adore. <3.

[Kusumura]

I had one that point blank refused to accepted that I had three adds hitting me which killed me. He said he "had agro" on everything because he checked the "traffic light system", apparently meaning I died to thin air and those three mobs were a figment of my imagination. Since then I have been a bit more forward with making sure the tank picks up adds.

Think I bumped into the same bloke, funnily enough. I resolved to not healing the prick and just healing myself and the DPS that was drawing the most aggro (Once the tank had died. Repeatedly).

[Leela]

I think it's just due to new players almost never select a healing role as their 1st.

[faris]

The very best was a marauder I had that wore Foestriker's. In Brayflox. so practically every hit had him at 25% health. I was so proud of myself for not letting him die, then he came out with; "ur a shitty healer I'm always below 50%." I waved /goodbye, and left the duty. I can't manage jerks, and it was a reminder to not bother with tanks other than the one in my static. Which gears properly.

[Masta]

In my opinion, every role is responsible for their station. But I believe the healer is suppose to be the most aware of everything going on and has the most control over everything. Marking targets aside (its just a means to cater to people who don't pay attention) good dps and tanks can see whats happening and adjust accordingly. As the heals, I initiate most trash pulls for my FC. I sleep mobs I don't wanna deal with. I prioritize who to kill based on my observation of the dps and damage the tank is able to sustain. Cuz frankly the healer is the only one that knows how much punishment the tank can endure since we are the ones throwing up heals, he is focused on saving lives and keeping hate. If that means 2 mobs or 5 mobs he's just bashing away disregarding if the healer is in a bind or not. But that's just me, healing has always provided the best point of observation which is critical when your doing end game elitist status sorta stuff.

[Feilyn]

I actually find the most common raid leader is a DPS, not a tank. Tanks tend to be very good at keeping track of timers, and healers tend to always know where their party members are. Dps on the other hand are open to seeing a bit of everything. However. I do not feel the ANY class makes the best raid leader. What is important is a good leader as the player, not the class. Some one who knows how the game works, can work well with people and takes the time to figure out what needs to get done is a better leader then a great tank. You can be great at your roll, but not so great as a leader. Thus, a healer can easily fit as a good leader.

[Kalagg]

True that it should be the individual with the most experience, false with it being about laziness and burdens. As I said above, the tank is the first man in. He's got control over all the mobs in a fight. Granted, FFXIV might have dropped the ball a little with the tank's ability to keep aggro, but the point is still valid.

The healer does not have control of a fight. Yes, the healer is in a prime position to notice everything that's going on - but that's information for themselves. I can't tell you how many times a tank has nearly or has actually died because I've had to start typing out the party's current status and actions. Which is why the healer should not be the leader. The DPS are all.. mindless, so that cancels them out, too. Guess who's left?

And how well does your man do without healing? The healer is in control regardless of your foolish thought process. He determines who lives and who dies, not the tank.

[JonFarron]

I've been leading as well! I mean, I'll go up to a mob waiting for the tank to pull, and the tank just stands there.. GO PULL THEM DAMNIT! Geez...

I don't mind leading the party, as long as the tank knows to aggro first. But if I keep havign to stop and type during boss fights.. as a healer, those 2 seconds you take to type could be the difference between life and death of an unfortunate party member.


I'm always the one marking targets, telling DPS to use limit break, telling DPS to move out of red, telling DPS to go hit w/e mechanic the boss has etc, etc.. -.-

Tank has plenty of time to type something, because the tank has auto-attack. Healer's don't have auto-heal. (Unless you're a Scholar, haha)

[Avalon_Albrook]

And how well does your man do without healing? The healer is in control regardless of your foolish thought process. He determines who lives and who dies, not the tank.

And without the meat shield there to take your bullets, you die in two seconds against a mob. And you can counter that line. And someone else can counter that one. And so on and so forth.

The point is, no one survives without each other. The tank doesn't survive without the healer and the DDs. The DDs don't survive without the tank and the healer. The healer doesn't survive without the tank and the DDs. We all need each other equally. Any attempt at trying to one up to define a superior place in a party is just needless posturing that does nothing but blow hot air around. And I live in LA. I have enough hot air to deal with as it is, from both environment and population.