There won't be a "gil problem" after repairs are made cheaper...

[Bibimbap]

Nobody seems to realize that everything in the economy was cut down to 1/10 of its original value. The whole point is that all of the numbers are supposed to be smaller, but people kept charging bigger in the beginning, so you have a bunch of people that blew all their money and don't know how to get it back. New players put enough gil into the system as it is, and we don't really need battle classes that bring in 100k a day just for killing monsters. Take a look at the price of NPC gear - you can get level 40~ gear for 5k~. Things weren't meant to cost so much. And please, do not mix up the two key points of the gil argument. A battle class who can't afford repairs because they squandered their gil has nothing to do with a "gil generating problem." It's not your job to "generate gil" at that point, it's your job to get existing gil. There is enough gil being generated by other players to support the intended price of things, you just can't blow it all on overpriced items. Discuss!

[Eternal_Arcadia]

youre wrong. things just work out for you cause youre a goldsmith, good for you, but the game shouldnt revolve around all of us becoming goldsmiths.

[Sentinel]

I agree with your subject, once repairs are made cheaper, people will continue to make some gil while doing battle stuff to support the bare essentials. If they want to make more money to afford other things...well, that is what gathering and crafting classes are for.

[Bibimbap]

youre wrong. things just work out for you cause youre a goldsmith, good for you, but the game shouldnt revolve around all of us becoming goldsmiths.

Do you really expect to be as rich as somebody who starts off as a crafting class? There's nothing imbalanced about it, that's just the way it's going to be.

[Taaz]

Do you really expect to be as rich as somebody who starts off as a crafting class? There's nothing imbalanced about it, that's just the way it's going to be.

I dont see anyone saying that in any thread thus far on the subject. I dont want to be rich period, you can have all the numbers you want. What i do want is to be able to pay for my repair costs by fighting, and selling what i get from doing so.
Currently, this is not the case, players are forced to do something they dislike doing(crafting) in order to continue enjoying the game.
This is bad game design, and one not done in most mmo's for a reason. When players can't do what they enjoy, they quit playing (IE: paying)
You enjoy crafting, and can sustain yourself doing so, we enjoy battling, and cannot sustain ourselves doing so. This is an issue, and one SE clearly agrees with.

[Daniolaut]

There wouldnt be a problem if we could still seek repairs from other players like we could in 1.0.

The cost was simply a respective grade dark matter and a negligible amount of gil.

(And gear didnt completely break every 2-3 levels as a DoL.)

[Bibimbap]

I dont see anyone saying that in any thread thus far on the subject. I dont want to be rich period, you can have all the numbers you want. What i do want is to be able to pay for my repair costs by fighting, and selling what i get from doing so.
Currently, this is not the case, players are forced to do something they dislike doing(crafting) in order to continue enjoying the game.
This is bad game design, and one not done in most mmo's for a reason. When players can't do what they enjoy, they quit playing (IE: paying)
You enjoy crafting, and can sustain yourself doing so, we enjoy battling, and cannot sustain ourselves doing so. This is an issue, and one SE clearly agrees with.

All the battle class players I know have 300k+ at 50. What did you spend all of your gil on? And like I said, "when repair costs are cheaper." So what are you trying to say?

[Roric]

Fixing repair costs won't change the fact that everything in the game is worthless.

[jcw005]

There's no justification in an expectation that someone who isn't willing to invest time and effort into leveling a gathering/crafting profession should make out equally. If there was, no one would bother. It's an investment for a reason.

[makii]

Fixing repair costs won't change the fact that everything in the game is worthless.

And yet you still play it.