Legacy Markets: Total Disaster Area- Call FEMA

[OrionInerghem]

Only thing worth a damn in my opinion now is food, jewelry(till you get enough tokens at 50), and materia. But mostly food.

This is what I've noticed as well, Food is really great, but time after time I'm the only person using food in any given run.. Materia is the big money maker, but that'll probably die down as well once people realize they don't need to max out their character anymore.

Jewlery "could" be a money maker

I'm running a little test atm, selling necklace, ring that are double, Triple bonded and selling... So far it's been 2 days and the price keeps lowering, waiting to see how low she goes :/ It's not looking good...

but I saw the 49 HQ ring market is around 1.4k now... so yeah.. we'll see

[Overon]

Its called Free Market

I have a WHM at 50 , I refuse to do my Relic Weapon quest because I am not buying the Materia for 75k-90k ,so I will either wait it out till people drop the price through a competing free Market or I get lucky and get the Materia I need on my own...........

Either or , this is what happens when Crafting is easy mode........
Free Market working as intended .

Edited: The materia I need is the highest Priced Materia , everything else is well below 10k !

[Brevity]

Find out what materia you need, purchase (or craft) items that can yield that materia, and do fates for an afternoon, or hell, go farm something that you need for your tradeskill, and you've got your materia and other mats for free (apart from your own time).
I swap my 100% soulbinds all the time, with replicas or some other item that will yield materias that sell well, and just keep a ready supply of items to do this with. There is no need to ever purchase materia, unless you never kill or craft anything. I find rings, and necks are a great source of materia, and for crafting, especially when you are doing ingots, swap all your 100% soulbound stuff, with replicas or other interesting items, and see the percentage skyrocket before you've gone through your stacks. - DONT BUY MATERIA!

[jcw005]

There is no "true price" of an item. The "true price" is whatever the market decides it to be. If you don't want to sell your items for less than what you deem your true price to be, then don't. No one's forcing you. If your stuff won't sell at that price, then tough. Just because your objective function only includes a maximization on the utility of cost doesn't mean others' doesn't include time. If they are willing to take a profit cut in order to sell faster/more, then that's a decision you don't get to judge.

Over time, and on average, markets will arrive at equilibrium points. Just because that point isn't what you'd like it to be doesn't mean the economy is broken.

[Wobi]

I gotta concur on this point, I was selling a decent HQ item for 50k a pop for 5 days, suddenly someone puts 5 up for sale in singles 31k each. Who the hell looks at the going rate and undercuts it by almost 40 percent? Crafters of Hyperion, you are shooting yourself in the foot with this business. Basically the only good money left is on fleece, due to the literal cargo ship worthy amount you need to make anything and the 7 whole sheep in the game who drop it.

I wish they would lower the item requirement (slightly) to make the base materials for 2 Star items so that only the truly dedicated crafters could knock out some HQ's and not have the market flooded with cheap goods.

[skulldead86]

A lot of poeple here have discover the problem, the difficulty. The game is way to easy so there is no point to buy new equipement. So crafting item from 1-50 is useless because i can destroy the storyline and Sidequest without good gear. Same whit end game pretty easy to farm dungeon to get Tombstone to buy much better equipement then 95% of the crafting item.

When i heard that Titan/Dungeon/etc are hard, sry my caracter was only gear whit item from storyline it was not that difficult. And fate Zergfest don't help, get lvl 50 in 3-4 day is pretty easy whit bad low lvl gear.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

Yep the prices are crazy low on Hyperion and makes me not even want to bother with it.

I finally took the time yesterday to get my level 50 BSM and ARM from 1.0 up to date and did the quest lines for them. Looked up the recipes for the crafter AF for each and saw they mostly required leatherworker or weaver and thought to myself I was never going to be able to get them without leveling more crafting classes. Check the market and my jaw dropped. Most of the pieces were selling for 5-7k! LOL. The most expensive piece was only 20k that I paid for. I decked out both ARM and BSM in level 50 AF and didn't even put a dent in my gil. This is top of the line crafting gear people!

Not sure what Im going to do with those classes but at least I will look good when I have to switch and repair my gear.

[Artamie]

Not sure what Im going to do with those classes but at least I will look good when I have to switch and repair my gear.

Definitely, look at those googles!

[Bizzybeast]

A few reasons why Auction House fails:

- Bazaar's are great for player economy, you can sell exotic goods at great prices, common goods at cheap bulk prices, and everything inbetween. Removing bazaar just removes most identity from those playing the economy game and crafters alike.

- Market Wards was already a perfect system. If you went to the right place, you got what you needed quickly and cheaply. Designer retainers actually mattered. (In Realm Reborn, its only for YOU to see).

- You offer 1 main quest line, which can gear up a class all the way to 50, with dungeon runs enchancing your set. You have no need for crafters on your first run through. Second run through you have 1 city's area will gear you up to 40+. 3rd run through, another city's areas quests get you up to 40+ gear. And then another city also available to gear you to 40+ easily. This with an Auction House, is poor planning.

[Airget]

The craft based gear that is comparable to what you can obtain with the tomes themselves is the issues. A market could exist but it doesn't because it just takes to much to make the gear when said person would just be better off using the tomes to get the gear itself.

What they should of considered is actually having a way for the crafted gear to be item lv 65 when NQ and item level 70 when HQ. Then reduce the amount of materials needed to 3 from the tomes that I believe cost 125 each, at least then players would see this as a reasonable investment, it cost less to do and the HQ rate would be slightly higher since less materials are being used.

But when given the choice between just getting a guaranteed item or having one crafted that at this moment just takes to much to make players will focus on the easier route of just farming 100+ tomes a time til they get what they need rather than taking that 1125 tomes at the chance of a piece of gear that takes half the tomes to purchase.

Quick example, Darklight gloves of healing cost 495 tomes to obtain, to craft the equivalent, Vanya gloves of healing takes 9 Potash to synth the base material needed for it, which is 1125 tome investment. While yes one can buy these materials it just isn't working atm because people would much rather focus on obtaining the gear themselves and when they put said items into perspective the 1125 investment to craft a piece of gear that only cost 495 tomes to obtain, the odds of a person buying said item are low because they would much rather take the time to do 5 runs at 100 tomes each to get the gloves then to spend the 500k-1mil to obtain an item of equivalent item level value.