Legacy Markets: Total Disaster Area- Call FEMA

[Artamie]

You're wrong because what is and isn't considered "difficult" is subjective. You might have had an easy time fighting Chimera, others are have spent about 2 weeks trying to down it. You might have downed Garuda(Hard) in a couple hours, some are still trying to defeat her. You're wrong because you're generalizing an entire community based solely off your own perspective.

I'm sure there will be elitists who will scoff and say "Pfft, that was easy!" but in all honesty I did have trouble with Hydra, Garuda, and even Titan. It took some concentration, and a considerable amount of devoted time to beat them all. (Especially Titan.) So really, in the end you can't use the hardcore gamer progression as evidence to the ease of a game.

Thanks for elaborating, the original post just wasn't enough to invite further discussion in my opinion.

However the fighting difficulty aside, I do agree with his opinion that gear is easy to obtain; they're handed to you along the way of the story and I've already read a couple of posts about how you don't even have to necessary be decently geared to fate grind to 50 at which point all the money you save along the way is simply funneled into level 50ish equipment. What happens to the market for items level 1-49 then? If there's only a market for high level equipment and there are many high level crafters it's no wonder prices will drop and people will panic about the market. I don't see any foreseeable solution and I share the opinion with some of the other posters here that unless things are changed DoL/DoH are irrelevant to the game. Any changes requiring DoW/M to contribute to the solution though will probably result in some form of massive outcry.

[Lomey]

Nope, you are wrong

Yea you were REAL helpful.......

Wow

[rution19]

To OP:

You are absolutely correct. I really don't know how to heal the economy, typically it will balance itself over time. Remember we have a lot of people doing the same thing at the same time (trying out gathering and mining) because of the new mechanics. This has flooded the markets with similar things. As for crafting we saw this coming. Yoshi has handed gear over on a platter, why would anyone buy anything off the market board? I just took a few jobs to pretty close to 40 with out buying 1 piece of gear! I have never played a game that slapped crafters in the face so hard. I mean why go through so much trouble with crafting gear design if they were going to be worthless. Looks like it was all for vanity just like everything else in this game. Looks great but very little substance. We all saw this coming a mile away, so I am happy to announce. I told you so.

[kazaran]

The problem is some items are put up at ridiculous costs, and they will drop. We do not want inflation. It won't work. Take a lot at NPC prices and go from there. Sale too high, people won't buy. Sell at realistic prices, people will. You won't build up crafting if you spend all your 1.0 gil on over priced supplies, with no balanced way to replenish it. THe answer s not jacking up prices, because In reality, a majority of players can't spend that.

Get XI pricing out of your head. Xi for the longest time had a very poor economy. Extremly unbalanced, resulting in more RMT trading.

[Coris]

Personally I like how people put stuff on the market for the exact same amount of gil they'd get from a NPC. And there are actually people buying it...
I mean, the buyers are blowing gil into the void?! That makes me cringe everytime I see it. (Mostly when I am re-checking the prices of the items I wanted to sell the day before. Everytime the price dropped by at least 100-200 Gil. If the new price is below what I'd want for it or the same as a NPC would give me: I simply sell it to the NPC.)

[OrionInerghem]

I just don't think HQ items in the 40s should be going for 100-200 Gil for a piece of armor... But yeah you can sell HQ Militia armor to the NPC for 175 Gil


I actually NPC quite a bit of the trash I get, but even now my retainers are 175/175, and when I did a price check before the servers went down, I was shocked to see so many markets that have dropped below what I would consider a fair price..


Crystals and Repairs really add up.


I guess I'll just rely on Leve's for money, and grind up some Darklight like everyone else. Until there's some balance in the markets. Such a shame, I was really enjoying the crafting/gathering in ARR.

[seikenflash]

Obviously gear is no longer the money maker, once you realize this and start learning how to use the markets of FFXIV:ARR you will do just fine, and have quite a lot of gil to boot

[Xatsh]

The issue with cost on Hyperion is 3 fold.

1) Good Crafted/Melded gear is difficult to make better then darklite which can be easily obtained in 4-5 days of spaming A.Keep or Castrum:mer. Which is gimp compared to af2 which you can get in 2 weeks.
2) You can see what people are selling. Because of 1 the low demand and high supply people are easily able to undercut each other. Which will result in things selling for near nothing.
3) It is stupid easy to do everything. 100% chance to hq still, crazy easy to level crafts (I went from cooking level 39-42 with leves in 35mins.... I bought food from the AH and turn it in for double the gil and 20-30k xp per turnin.. yea good design SE), Way to easy to gather. I can get a stack of hq and 3 stacks of nq in less then an hour... the demand will never be that high. So as the market gets more saturated the prices will keep droping.

SE made some of the best crafting and gathering in the mmo world... and combined it with the absolute worst economy model of any mmo ever developed.

People saying gear is no longer a money maker.... This should be a red flag something is seriously wrong.

[OrionInerghem]

The issue with cost on Hyperion is 3 fold.

1) Good Crafted/Melded gear is difficult to make better then darklite which can be easily obtained in 4-5 days of spaming A.Keep or Castrum:mer. Which is gimp compared to af2 which you can get in 2 weeks.
2) You can see what people are selling. Because of 1 the low demand and high supply people are easily able to undercut each other. Which will result in things selling for near nothing.
3) It is stupid easy to do everything. 100% chance to hq still, crazy easy to level crafts (I went from cooking level 39-42 with leves in 35mins.... I bought food from the AH and turn it in for double the gil and 20-30k xp per turnin.. yea good design SE), Way to easy to gather. I can get a stack of hq and 3 stacks of nq in less then an hour... the demand will never be that high. So as the market gets more saturated the prices will keep droping.

This is an accurate assessment of where we are at now on Hyperion.

[seikenflash]

People saying gear is no longer a money maker.... This should be a red flag something is seriously wrong.

Hmm, why is that? Sometimes change is a good thing, maybe SE wants you to do something with your Gil other than buy gear.