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    When Rapiers are implemented, remember one thing

    They're a dueling weapon, specifically stabbing/piercing. In FFXI you handled it like any other sword which in real life would shatter the thing let alone barely hurt something. So when you guys implement these type of weapons:

    They're not like normal swords..proper handling please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    They're a dueling weapon, specifically stabbing/piercing. In FFXI you handled it like any other sword which in real life would shatter the thing let alone barely hurt something. So when you guys implement these type of weapons:

    They're not like normal swords..proper handling please!
    According to that data mining leak from way back, fencing will be its own class in the armory system. If they are going to bother implementing fencing as a class in the armory system, it is pretty much guaranteed that they will treat the fencing weapons differently to any other such weapons. By that token, it can be safely assumed that rapiers will be wielded differently to the already-existing swords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    They're a dueling weapon, specifically stabbing/piercing. In FFXI you handled it like any other sword which in real life would shatter the thing let alone barely hurt something. So when you guys implement these type of weapons:

    They're not like normal swords..proper handling please!
    incorrect, the Rapier is a thin razor sharp sabre, which in expert hands can cut something to ribbons, they're also very useful for parrying and riposts.

    The Epee is a thin tubular blade with a pointed tip, used primarily in sport fencing, it can't cut along it's length, but is excellent at piercing.

    a fencer would likely be using the rapier however, because it's capable of slashing and piercing, which is very important for actual warfare.

    what i do NOT want to see however, is shields in the offhand.

    Fencer should not be able to use a shield, and should focus entirely on the martial prowess of their graceful cuts, thrusts, and disables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TessaJalloh View Post
    incorrect, the Rapier is a thin razor sharp sabre, which in expert hands can cut something to ribbons, they're also very useful for parrying and riposts.

    The Epee is a thin tubular blade with a pointed tip, used primarily in sport fencing, it can't cut along it's length, but is excellent at piercing.

    a fencer would likely be using the rapier however, because it's capable of slashing and piercing, which is very important for actual warfare.

    what i do NOT want to see however, is shields in the offhand.

    Fencer should not be able to use a shield, and should focus entirely on the martial prowess of their graceful cuts, thrusts, and disables.
    Actually, they should be able to weild a Main Gauche in the off hand:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teroril View Post
    Actually, they should be able to weild a Main Gauche in the off hand:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger
    This is what I figured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teroril View Post
    Actually, they should be able to weild a Main Gauche in the off hand:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger
    that would be nice too, however i'm rather tired of always seeing duel wielding when no shield is in the off hand. making Fencer only use a single weapon and no defensive option on the offhand would make it have a strong presence when compared to whatever dual dagger wielding class we no doubt will see.
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    If we gained Fencer as a class and then Red Mage as one of it's job specialisations (Fencing weapon skills, mixed with enfeebling magic and en- spells to perform a support/damage role) I would be all. over. it.

    No idea how jobs work at this point though, it might be totally unapplicable to grant a Fencer access to magic once it gains a specialisation, but who knows.
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    I hope if fencer does come to XIV they leave it void of any heal spells. Let the magic swordsman do what it was meant to do. Fight monsters with a magicked sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I hope if fencer does come to XIV they leave it void of any heal spells. Let the magic swordsman do what it was meant to do. Fight monsters with a magicked sword.
    *blink* Wait, there people other than me out there that want Red Mage to use a rapier for magic-coated combat? Color me surprised. XD

    On topic, I agree on the Fencer class having their own stance and selection of abilities. It needs to reflect the elegance associated to the rapier. Would be awesome if they also implemented the option to offhand a dagger to act as a main gauche.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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