SCH... are we used?

[Birdeh]

As a lvl 50 SCH (and lvl 34 WHM), I've been running nearly all the lvl 50 instances and its going fine.

SCH advantages:
1. Has shields
2. Doesn't going oom (easy)
3. Cool pet buff (spell/skill haste, healing potency/resistance/aoe buff stuff)
4. Instant 20% healing spell, which you can spam at most 3x per minute (takes practice, but saved many asses).

However what I regret not having from WHM stufff are:
1. Aoe medica heals for pure heals.
2. Not having a cure 2, which is more powerful (but less mana efficient).
3. Somehow WHMs can resurrect people with no death penalty.
4. The panic 100% heal thingy (Instead the SCH 20% heal spam thing compensates though in a way, cuz u can u use it more often).

I would still prefer playing a SCH anytime, since ur kind of an underdog. And you have a higher chance of getting another WHM to combine the strengths of both healer types.

[Comalol]

3. Somehow WHMs can resurrect people with no death penalty.

sch can do that as well... but it is on the limit of bug using (for both WHM and SCH)... the trick is simply to cast an aoe heal that tick during the rise animation for whm the timing is to start casting medica I as soon as the target pop under your position... don't remeber the cast time of sch aoe heal but if it's the same that will do the trick for u too... if it has different cast time u only need to get the timing right...

PS: about what u said on mana efficency.. it is true until whm start getting good lvl 50 equip... once the get a good amount of piety from that (all my point went to mind so all my piety is from gear...) your natural regen + shroud will be enough to let u linger around 75% mana in most fight and drop to 50% only in the most aoe intensive... anyway this doesn't make SCH subpar to whm... all other aspect hold true + sch can use their shield (both single and aoe) to mitigate unavoidable aoe dmg before they happen and so not incurring in the risk of tank getting hit really hard while they are healing the party... there where many situation where healing as a dowble WHM i found my self forced to use benediction (off gcd insta refull on 5 min cd) on the tank because he was getting bashed while we both healer were restoring the party health after an aoe transition... same fight when paired with a SCH went much more easy and I was the only one healing a less dmged party while he was healing and shielding the tank in the mean time...

[Lebeau]

Much to my dismay, I wish all of the Scholar shields stacked the way WHM HoTs do :-(

[Comalol]

Much to my dismay, I wish all of the Scholar shields stacked the way WHM HoTs do :-(

while I can understand the pain of 2 sch not stacking with eachother... it's painly obiovus what shield stacking will make of most fight... a critted succor is already enough to turn big unavoidable aoe into medium/lesser aoe... take 2 critted equipped SCH with stacking shield and most aoe burst will turn into "OHH what was that shiny animation the boss just did for?"

it will even come to make some boss mechanics trivial (think at ifrit hm failed nails or garuda hm phase 1 to 2 transation with few or no rock remaining... tank and shielded high vitality mdps can already survive those... get double critted shield on every party member and u can ignore those mechanics and just burn down the boss without thinking...) ... even more embarassing... just have the 2 high crit sch fire a succor every 20 sec... u can totally forget about the party health and only focus on tank aside for that one cast every 20 sec -_-' no rush to get people topped... no dps dead due to one wron step into an aoe... no tank dead because healer was forced to turn to party heal...

with those shield as they are stacking will make them too much OP... in order for them to stack they should be reworked with the healing potency increased by 50% and the shield potency reduced to 50% of the healed amount (100% healed amount for critted adloquim) but that will totally transform the sch into a different thing... no more a preentive healer but just an healer with little shield added that aren't even enough to cover for a few dot ticks...

[Nephyron]

I'd say demon wall alone is worse than all of vale. The again, I've seen some people take too many liquifies, and it gets too out of hand fast...

It's funny to read this, since in my group I don't heal AT ALL during demon wall. I just set my fairy on auto and switch to cleric stance and help DPS, we usually kill it before adds spawn.

[Walle]

SCH and WHM sinergise really well. Optimal set up for an 8 man is to have one of each......

This!

I was in The Preatorium with a SCH and it worked extreamly well, even when players dident move out of stuff and so on. We had 5/8 players(including me) who had never been in the instance before and had only one wipe on each of the Ultima fights, but that was due to players who needed to see the fight first. the second try was like day and night, with none or only a few deaths.

So I would personally prefer to team up with a SCH, rather than another WHM

[Feathery]

I have a SCH and WHM at 31 and I'd say from a leveling perspective that the biggest difference right now is that with the WHM I do have mana & threat issues that are non-existent on the SCH.

[Niklaus]

I'm a 50 WHM and I prefer a SCH over a second WHM. Things seem to go smoother with our healing in combo

[Rainsford]

2. Not having a cure 2, which is more powerful (but less mana efficient).
3. Somehow WHMs can resurrect people with no death penalty.

For 3, the trick is to start casting Succor as soon as their body disappears to be rezed. What's happening is that you can't single-target someone while they are in the Raise animation (you'll end up casting on yourself if they are targetted), but you CAN hit them with AOEs while they are in the animation. As they don't get the "debuff" until the animation has finished, all you need to do is hit them with an AOE heal before the Raise animation finishes to cancel them from getting the debuff.

For 2, remember that Aldo, while it lists as a 300 potency heal, is actually a 600 potency heal thanks to the shield compared to WHM's 650 potency Cure II. Considering you get free 300 potency heals from your Faerie, I'd say an Aldo + a faerie heal is significantly more valuable than a Cure II!

[Whippet]

Didn't played my best, but here is why SCH + WHM is awsome

http://www.twitch.tv/neko_whippet/c/2921351