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  1. #11
    Player
    Purutzil's Avatar
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    Sivia Ferrus
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Sch + Whm will be far superior to 2x Whm or 2x Sch, though I will say 2 Sch is the worst of the two. Over-all I have no issue Scholar healing. AoE healing is the roughest part, primarily after large damage bursts on the group but its still managable. I find the healing ST to be far better with shield providing that extra edge. 20% heal is AMAZING to combine with your big shield heal and can keep up a tank real well, particularly using the shield as a buffer before damage even starts.
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  2. #12
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    Ruprect's Avatar
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    Character
    Ruprect Castiect
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    SCH and WHM work very well together. One thing that SCH apart is the fact that we can pre shield. Casting Succor at different points throughout a fight in order to mitigate some AoE damage is very useful. I will even cast it if everyone is full and before a pull. My Succor hits for about 400 give or take and 600 crits, that is a pretty big shield. I think the best setup by far is one of each. 2 SCH do not work great together but it is very doable.
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  3. #13
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    Vid's Avatar
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    Character
    Iggi Wunohwun
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    As a White Mage myself, I love having a Scholar in my 8 man groups, we just work so well off of each others abilities and heals. However you won't find that people will prefer one over the other (at least not in my experience), but I could see where some one might take a White Mage over a Scholar if they already have a Scholar in the group, and vice versa with 2 White Mages vs getting another Scholar. Mileage may vary, but don't worry your spot as a healer in groups is secure.
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  4. #14
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    glim's Avatar
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    Arcanis Bladewing
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I prefer bringing a scholar that uses support type pet =P
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Snuggles Unicorn
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    I'd say demon wall alone is worse than all of vale. The again, I've seen some people take too many liquifies, and it gets too out of hand fast...
    What's wrong with Demon Wall? SCH Faerie can clip into the wall (so repel isn't an issue), and my SCH can put out respectable DPS on the thing. Cleric Stance + our dots + spamming Ruin II/Energy Drain is pretty much all this fight is. If bees spawn or some derps get hit by the Murder Hole, just cast Succor/focus target with the Faerie. If DPS is low (it shouldn't be with you helping out), take off CS and spam Succor. It's practically enough to keep me up if I stand in the goo.
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  6. #16
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    MrEzekial's Avatar
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    Character
    Ezekial Ine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    As a PLD, I pref sch over whm in every situation. The only time it's ok to have a whm is if we already have a sch, and even then, I normally prefer double SCH or SCH+WHM (edit it also greatly depends on player skill with the healer).

    WHM is horrible IMO and needs to be addressed by SE and fixed.

    Also, as a SCH Selene is garbage. Please never ever ever ever use her in any HM Prime fights or Dungeons, it will just make the other healer have to work harder and hate you.
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    Last edited by MrEzekial; 09-12-2013 at 01:20 PM.

  7. #17
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    Character
    Shinoa Hiragi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Yea if you play Sch correctly you can get in your DOT's like on Ifrit I set Eos behind Ifrit and move her back anytime she is knocked back and she can keep the tank healed with a few heals from me here and there til after the Inferno move then got to focus more on healing hell even on AK Demon Wall is easy to heal just use Succor after each line movement and hit sprint right before Repel and as long as the team stop you from getting paralyzed you are golden.
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    Last edited by Kaizersan; 09-12-2013 at 01:24 PM.

  8. #18
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    Arale's Avatar
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    Character
    Aylaine Gray
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I like having a SCH in 8 man content. WHM and SCH synergize well.

    Though a few SCH I've seen have been pretty holier then thou towards WHM as a whole, which is a bit disheartening. Both classes can co exist

    I do forsee something happening though, either WHM is getting a buff to MP management or SCH is getting a huge nerf to it.
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    Last edited by Arale; 09-12-2013 at 01:58 PM.

  9. #19
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    Galen Amaranthe
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Frankly, I think scholar is better once you know the fight and can pre-shield effectively. Without doing that, it seems a bit challenging to catch up on group damage... But if you mitigate via shields, they are awesome.

    Whm can heal up a little better, but at a huge mp disadvantage. Currently, the classes are not balanced IMO.

    I like the different styles, but the SCH is more unique without equal drawbacks, IMO. Overcoming the limitation is learning the fight.. Which every healer really needs to do anyway. Pet UI isn't great, but I consider that a system issue, not an intended class design issue and hopefully will be fixed.

    The trend I am seeing is the whm being considered the lame healer, which is sad.
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    Last edited by ApolloGenX; 09-12-2013 at 01:48 PM.

  10. #20
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    Character
    Valiant Lightsworn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Whenever I'm on, I notice more people asking for 2 WHMs than a WHM + SCH due to the fact that both WHMs can cast regen and medica 2 on a target and all 4 spells will stack. As I said in other threads either let SCH shields stack, or prevent WHMs spells from stacking... only way to stop people from searching for 2 WHMS for 8 man content. Also from what I have seen... SCHs don't seem to crit too often... or maybe it's just cause most of the "just turned 50" gear is absolute garbage for a SCH. WHM does seem a bit OP to me compared to what I have seen SCHs do... Therefore, I haven't bothered to use mine yet.
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