SCH... are we used?

[Draemos]

Yes two WHM is OP. Scholar is balanced until you reach Titan at which point you will only get a group if its a 3 healer group with 2 whm and 1 sch. Scholar needs a slight re work to balance it for the big high damage taken fights.

Titan is a heavy AoE healing fight and WHM are heavy AoE healers. Just because they are better utilized in that fight doesn't make SCH broken or in need of rework.

It's kinda like saying WHMs are broken at Demon Wall because SCHs are significantly better designed for that fight.

[sharazisspecial]

Titan is a heavy AoE healing fight and WHM are heavy AoE healers. Just because they are better utilized in that fight doesn't make SCH broken or in need of rework.

It's kinda like saying WHMs are broken at Demon Wall because SCHs are significantly better designed for that fight.

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

[Draemos]

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

What? You just have your tank hold the bees and you kill the wall. Very little AoE healing required, and you aren't nearly as likely to pull Bee threat as a Scholar. You can use the haste Fairy and do DPS for the first half of the fight because your fairy can heal the first two repels by herself. If you have good DPS you can even kill the wall before the bees spawn, it's trivial as a Scholar.

[Kaizersan]

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

Sch is better for the demon wall simply for the fact that it has Dots I can hit all 3 each round with maybe needing to do one or 2 succors at the most only more then that if the dps fail to kill the bee's fast but I have been in a few teams that can down it before the bee's pop.

[reality_check]

Sch is better for the demon wall simply for the fact that it has Dots I can hit all 3 each round with maybe needing to do one or 2 succors at the most only more then that if the dps fail to kill the bee's fast but I have been in a few teams that can down it before the bee's pop.

Lol, sorry. I have WHM and SCH at 50 and WHM far out damages scholar. Healing Demon wall is a nightmare on my SCH if the group is bad. I can carry awful groups through the fight on my WHM no problem. They each have their moments to shine but Demon Wall is not scholar's.

[sharazisspecial]

2 medica2 is trivialising content more then 2 succor ever would atm.

[Tremara]

I don´t know ... atm I would say the SCH is the better AoE-healer because of less hate and better gaining MP.
If I would cast 2 Medika I/II right after another, the boss would great me with 5k hit right in the face - and if I am not dead after that I lost 1.1k MP. My friend who is playing SCH has no problems with hate at all - and he don´have to worry about MP.
Yeah, WHM has the enmity-reduce/gain MP-Skill but sometimes 2min cool down are just too much.

PS: Yes, I am exaggerating but it´s more or less that way - at least for me.

[kronpas]

I don´t know ... atm I would say the SCH is the better AoE-healer because of less hate and better gaining MP.
If I would cast 2 Medika I/II right after another, the boss would great me with 5k hit right in the face - and if I am not dead after that I lost 1.1k MP. My friend who is playing SCH has no problems with hate at all - and he don´have to worry about MP.
Yeah, WHM has the enmity-reduce/gain MP-Skill but sometimes 2min cool down are just too much.

PS: Yes, I am exaggerating but it´s more or less that way - at least for me.

Your tanks are doing terrible job if you pull threat after 2 AOE heals.

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

WHM is better as it makes up for DPS incompetency better (spam medica away!). If they do their job properly you dont have to heal as much.

[fanservice]

WHM is better as it makes up for DPS incompetency better (spam medica away!). If they do their job properly you dont have to heal as much.

This right here is exactly why I found AV easier than most AK groups as a SCH. I get dps that take the liquify lines on top of the usual 300-400 murder holes hitting random people. It's not like SCH are good at fixing their group damage problems in a single spellcast...

[kronpas]

if you PLAY both classes, you will see theres no way SCH be on par with WHM in a PUGed demon wall, on both paper and reality. And WHM outdpses SCH simply for the fact it has more mnd to swap to int when needed. SCH has way more abilities inherited from ACN but they aint all that useful (no real AoE for example).

When I want to quest, I flip a switch a do it as SMN.