The problem with FATES

[Bustercucumbers]

unless someone can point me to solid data on FATE timers, FATEs are unlikely to be faster EXP then instances if you have a 4 man party for spamming instances

If you are in a fate party, you will almost always get gold. Also you need to consider in your math the fact that dungeons have large down time too. Sure you get 150k in a dungeon, but then you are sitting around waiting another 30 minutes to an hour for your next dungeon, while you could have been in a fate party grinding it out nonstop.

[seikenflash]

If you are in a fate party, you will almost always get gold. Also you need to consider in your math the fact that dungeons have large down time too. Sure you get 150k in a dungeon, but then you are sitting around waiting another 30 minutes to an hour for your next dungeon, while you could have been in a fate party grinding it out nonstop.

Not if you have that FATE party go into the dungeons, I find having a group spam dungeons is the fastest way to level, not FATES. Why does everyone seem to think having a FATE party is the fastest way, when you can take said FATE party and dungeon non-stop, no downtime waiting for a cue, this, would effectively give you more xp in the long run then grinding FATES. You don't cue up for FATES, you shout to build the party, you don't have to cue up for the dungeons either, you can shout for the party effectively removing the long wait time of the duty finder.

[Dyvid]

Not if you have that FATE party go into the dungeons, I find having a group spam dungeons is the fastest way to level, not FATES. Why does everyone seem to think having a FATE party is the fastest way, when you can take said FATE party and dungeon non-stop, no downtime waiting for a cue, this, would effectively give you more xp in the long run then grinding FATES.

I think this is right. Though right now FATEs my seem like the fastest way to 50 I found it isn't. I did questing and dungeons all the way to 48 with a little FATE here and there to cap out my level and earn some seals. Now if a person wants to level up solely by FATE that's on them.

P.S. You are right about Guildhest though because the rewards are meager after the initial run and SE needs to address this.

[tukuiPat]

If you are in a fate party, you will almost always get gold. Also you need to consider in your math the fact that dungeons have large down time too. Sure you get 150k in a dungeon, but then you are sitting around waiting another 30 minutes to an hour for your next dungeon, while you could have been in a fate party grinding it out nonstop.

I'm actually getting ~200k EXP from instances. I'm also queuing for them with a Tank, Healer and 2nd DPS. Granted not everyone can have friends that cover these roles but nothing stops people from trying to find them in shout either.