The problem with FATES

[Kaedan]

They just need to make FATEs scale higher than they are. Currently, no matter how big the zerg is, the HP of the FATE mobs caps out rather low, making it nearly impossible for some people to get credit and impossible to get credit if you're not very nearby the FATE when it spawns.

As for the OP's point 3: FATEs aren't meant to teach you how to party. That's what the mandatory dungeon runs are for. Also, once all the people who aren't going to subscribe at the end of the free month leave, there will be a significant drop in zerging.

[Inviticus]

Part of my issue with Fates is how the contribution system is greatly skewed towards AOE DD. The Mobs in Fates die so quickly, I have a hard enough time landing hits on mobs. I end up having to spam FLASH in order to build any kind of contribution. Fates also seem to discourage players from playing their intended role. I've been in a growing number of Fates where healers will not heal me while I'm tanking because they are too worried about their contribution. Fates as they are seem broken.

[Cairdeas]

No Fate Except What You Make

[tukuiPat]

So I wanna lay down some maths, I've not gotten to deep into this but, per hour from grinding instances is about 150k EXP an hour at high 40s, if it takes you ~2 minutes to complete a FATE, and you get ~12.3k EXP per FATE, you would need to do 12.19 FATEs per hour to get 150k EXP an hour, now in theory at 2 minutes per FATE you could get 30 done if you could travel fast enough to the FATEs, you'd earn ~369k EXP per hour, BUT from personal experience, I've seen it take up to 10 minutes for a new FATE to pop up on any point on the map, some times they will pop faster, some times they take their sweet time. So if it takes ~5 minutes per FATE to pop up (excluding the chances of 2 fates being near each other or up at the same time) you're only gonna get ~12 done per hour if you even make it to the FATE in time to get gold.

unless someone can point me to solid data on FATE timers, FATEs are unlikely to be faster EXP then instances if you have a 4 man party for spamming instances

[Bustercucumbers]

unless someone can point me to solid data on FATE timers, FATEs are unlikely to be faster EXP then instances if you have a 4 man party for spamming instances

If you are in a fate party, you will almost always get gold. Also you need to consider in your math the fact that dungeons have large down time too. Sure you get 150k in a dungeon, but then you are sitting around waiting another 30 minutes to an hour for your next dungeon, while you could have been in a fate party grinding it out nonstop.

[seikenflash]

If you are in a fate party, you will almost always get gold. Also you need to consider in your math the fact that dungeons have large down time too. Sure you get 150k in a dungeon, but then you are sitting around waiting another 30 minutes to an hour for your next dungeon, while you could have been in a fate party grinding it out nonstop.

Not if you have that FATE party go into the dungeons, I find having a group spam dungeons is the fastest way to level, not FATES. Why does everyone seem to think having a FATE party is the fastest way, when you can take said FATE party and dungeon non-stop, no downtime waiting for a cue, this, would effectively give you more xp in the long run then grinding FATES. You don't cue up for FATES, you shout to build the party, you don't have to cue up for the dungeons either, you can shout for the party effectively removing the long wait time of the duty finder.

[Dyvid]

Not if you have that FATE party go into the dungeons, I find having a group spam dungeons is the fastest way to level, not FATES. Why does everyone seem to think having a FATE party is the fastest way, when you can take said FATE party and dungeon non-stop, no downtime waiting for a cue, this, would effectively give you more xp in the long run then grinding FATES.

I think this is right. Though right now FATEs my seem like the fastest way to 50 I found it isn't. I did questing and dungeons all the way to 48 with a little FATE here and there to cap out my level and earn some seals. Now if a person wants to level up solely by FATE that's on them.

P.S. You are right about Guildhest though because the rewards are meager after the initial run and SE needs to address this.

[tukuiPat]

If you are in a fate party, you will almost always get gold. Also you need to consider in your math the fact that dungeons have large down time too. Sure you get 150k in a dungeon, but then you are sitting around waiting another 30 minutes to an hour for your next dungeon, while you could have been in a fate party grinding it out nonstop.

I'm actually getting ~200k EXP from instances. I'm also queuing for them with a Tank, Healer and 2nd DPS. Granted not everyone can have friends that cover these roles but nothing stops people from trying to find them in shout either.

[Meimei]

Battlecraft leves (and to an extent, grand company leves as well) need to receive a huge buff to their rewards. The exp/gil is pitiful as it stands.

That alone might solve the whole dilemma of FATE being the only viable route to exping.

[Itchyness]

TBH i enjoy fate grinding if you have some sort of large aoe. I just like to sit there and stare at all the pretty lights and colors and treat it like a fireworks show.