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    Karsa Orlong
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    Relic +1 Weapon VS iLvL 90 Body/Legs

    So I'm coming up to 900 Mythology next week and I was just wondering what most people thought was the better upgrade (from Darklight Equivalent) from a DD point of view.
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    Vyn Venture
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    Weapon damage is huge for a DPS. One weapon damage is something like 50 of your main stat ( INT for example ) If you aren't low on HP during a bunch of AOE stuff ( titan stomps for example ) I think you're biggest upgrade will be relic+1
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    Sakura Rain
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    50 of main stat for one wpn damage? I heard 10. Whatever the case is, wpn damage is better than stat. On that note, do we have a definite answer somewhere on stats and wpn damage? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nimuniverse View Post
    50 of main stat for one wpn damage? I heard 10. Whatever the case is, wpn damage is better than stat. On that note, do we have a definite answer somewhere on stats and wpn damage? Thanks.
    http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id...amageMechanics

    These formulas still appear to be valid.
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    And those formulas, when modeled, point towards a ratio of closer to "1 WD : 7-10 primary stat".
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    I was wondering the same. Honestly, I think a piece of AF2 clothing would give more damage than making your weapon +1. +1 is a slight increase but it seems more of a cosmetic sort of thing. It's also the most powerful weapon in the game, so there's bragging rights as well.
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    Err, it's 2 weapon damage, and a small upgrade of primary stat and some secondary stats, so the "+1" is pretty good.

    Unless the pants/body are like +20 STR over what you had before, then the weapon is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I was wondering the same. Honestly, I think a piece of AF2 clothing would give more damage than making your weapon +1. +1 is a slight increase but it seems more of a cosmetic sort of thing. It's also the most powerful weapon in the game, so there's bragging rights as well.
    At the moment, there is no way to increase WDMG aside from, well, weapons. Point-for-point, WDMG is the most effective means of increasing damage output.

    Unless you see yourself breezing through Bahamut's Coil for an Allagan weapon, relic+1 will give the greatest returns. You can always get your AF2 later, or Allagan armor in the meantime.
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    Wulfgang Amadeus
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    And those formulas, when modeled, point towards a ratio of closer to "1 WD : 7-10 primary stat".
    This is correct. I did this for BRD using my current stats and the ratio is 1 WD = ~8 DEX for me. The equivalency will vary based on crit rate / DTR. See image below. I'd suggest you model out your stats then modify based on the choices you're considering. Based on my current stats, a gear upgrade of roughly +12 DEX or more (ignoring crit / DTR) would beat going from Artemis to the +1 version.

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    Last edited by Wulfgang; 09-12-2013 at 01:58 AM.

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    Y'ahte Tia
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    Looking at the two, lowballing 1 WD = 7 STR, i'm using Dragoon gear.

    Upgrading Gae Bolg to +1 gives 18 worth of STR (2 WD and 4 STR)
    Whereas upgrading Drachen Mail to Wyrm's Mail gives 15 worth of STR (15 STR)

    Armor gives +8 Crit and +8 Det, Weapon gives +3 Crit. I presume that the higher the values of Crit and Det the higher that WD will win on pure STR?

    That means that the Gae Bolg +1 is still the superior choice. Presumable the same works for every weapon
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