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    Obreck's Avatar
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    Alenna Nightmoon
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Gladitor/Paladin and daggers....

    So is there anyone who thinks giving knives/daggers to the Gladiator class was a good idea? I mean plate mail + tower shield + little knife = something's seriously wrong here.

    It might have been different if the daggers were just an early level thing, a "pay your dues" type fare. But you keep receiving them all the way into the late 40s.

    Personally I think they should model swap all the GLA/PLD daggers with short swords and save the dagger/knife models for when its time to bring in a class that look appropriate using them (thief, ninja, etc). Having a heavily armored up tank running around with a tiny shiv just looks ridiculous.
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    Taeyeon's Avatar
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    Kwon Yuri
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm waiting for a sword or a badass greatsword.. a dagger is really lucklaster for a gld/pld
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    Arthidian Dracul
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 33
    I also find it to be an issue as well, I don't mind the 1st dagger we get though since we are still weak & all but after switching to sword aside from the starter 1, seems like we are stepping back in our training. Like you mention it does look very ridiculous to have a dagger, but they also need to do something about those wooden looking weapons we get because I don't see how we parry most attacks with that.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Obreck View Post
    Personally I think they should model swap all the GLA/PLD daggers with short swords and save the dagger/knife models for when its time to bring in a class that look appropriate using them (thief, ninja, etc). Having a heavily armored up tank running around with a tiny shiv just looks ridiculous.
    We have to remember that GLA when first implemented was just a bunch of weapon skills and little else (since all shield skills fell under the Sentinel class). Back then GLA made sense having daggers, longswords, scimitars and spatha/gladius. I'm surprised they kept daggers on GLA for as long as they have, and am hoping that they eventually remove daggers from GLA and replace them with something else. Either short swords or Great Swords if they really want GLA to sprout into Paladin and Dark Knight.
    Quote Originally Posted by nameis2 View Post
    Like you mention it does look very ridiculous to have a dagger, but they also need to do something about those wooden looking weapons we get because I don't see how we parry most attacks with that.
    As much as I despise macuahuitls, they're actually very formidable. Long story short, a macuahuitl is a sword developed by the aztecs using wood and sharpened stone. With the right amount of force and thanks to their innate weight, macuahuitls have been known to be able to decapitate large animals like horses.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Air Bearstrom
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    It looks even more ridiculous as a roe.
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    Tirocupidus's Avatar
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    Gerulf Cloudwrath
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I've thought this many times, and have refused to use a dagger since the Maddening Dagger, which I replaced ASAP. Also, unless they change it, every job that uses a one-handed blade (assuming they add them) will have gladiator as a base class, which seems rather ridiculous in itself.
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    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Devilair View Post
    It looks even more ridiculous as a roe.
    This x10000000.

    I would be better off swinging my shield around than the tiny little dagger I can't see.
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    Tilpax Morpax
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I don't like the daggers either.

    Wouldn't mind seeing a sword breaker (Sword with notches to catch enemy blades) model used.
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    My inclination is that the inclusion of the Dagger in the Gladiator's usable weapons is because Gladiator will get a "Job" that duel wields in the future. Like Gladiator 30 + Archer 15 = Thief/Rogue/Ninja kind of thing. At that point, Daggers would be super cool : D Although, to keep things balanced, they would need to give MRDs something like a Berserker or something that would be 2-handed dps, and then we'd still only have 2 tanks.

    But overall, yeah the daggers look HORRIBLE on us - not very "Knight-In-Shining-Armor"-esque. Also, I'm pretty low level at this time (35), but it seems like there is a severe lack of Longswords! I just want a nice sized long sword with an ornate hilt and maybe a blue-white blade - is that so much to ask? Everything is a Spatha or Wooden Mole-Whacker. Killing Titan after a long battle is less rewarding when I see my character waving a yardstick in victory at the end!
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    Icono Clast
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Flamberge was the first sword I got that was even remotely acceptable looking. Then soon after I got the Ancient sword, and that thing looks so awesome you'll never want to give it up.

    The swords are pretty pathetic in this game, to say the LEAST. I came from GW2 though, so what can you expect . . .
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