Gear level, the final nail in the games coffin.

[Xenogias]

Its not the system that's the problem it is the people. Dungeons are developed with a certain gear level in mind. Sure some people are skilled enough to get away with less but most of us aren't as much as some want to claim otherwise. The problem comes in when you have someone trying to join a group for an entry level HM and certain types of people thinking unless you have all end game top tier gear you aren't worthy of the instance. THAT is where the problems will start. Not that they are now blocking people who try to bypass the progression system already in place.

[Kewitt]

Give it time. The elitist will get there gear. And with the quick turn around time on the game run out of shit to do.

The rest of us will get up to 50 with ok gear and be happy to work for it.
I have a 50 cnj from 1.xx I haven't used it yet. I am leveling WAR now at 35 to give a more pure filling of the story, And when I hit 50. Like more people I will need to work threw these things.

MMO aren't meant to be finished in 60 hours, Yet I know many legacy player that finished the main story in Early access. And I ask myself what are they going to be doing in 3-4 weeks time? All geared out with nothing to do till 2.1 comes out. While I think there will be a little more content in 2.1 most of it will be more polishing of the game, things they just didn't get done but weren't game breaking like "Sort".

[EdwinLi]

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Well I know what I'm doing now since I'm done with the Main storyline...

Get a lvl 50 Bard since I find it more fun than Summoner and get the full Darklight Set for my Bard. Ya I have a lvl 50 Summoner but it was just a test run so I'm switching to Bard.

Try to get all classes to lvl 30.

Get a lvl 50 Miner and start making a fortune selling tier 3 Shards

???

Profit!!!!

[Ominoussilence]

Ok, I seriously don't understand all the complaining about ilvl requirements. It's not like SE is going to require full DL and primal weapon to get into the level 50 dungeons or anything. The requirement is meant to keep out the people that level to 50 through only fates and job quests and queue up with AF and everything else level 30ish from queueing for content they have no business being in because they're going to be nothing but a burden to everyone else who has the misfortune of being paired with them. Realistically I think we're likely to see an ilvl requirement of something between 40 and 45 for the level 50 dungeons (AK, WP, CM, and Prae) and ifrit (which is achievable entirely from the vendors (GC, n.thanlan, mor dhorna, etc.)) they won't be easy if the whole group is in that range but they are definitely doable (before that ilvl though a full party in that range has little to no chance of success).

[LunarEmerald]

It's not really about being elitist. You have to stop being lazy with your gear at endgame because things get difficult. If you aren't properly geared then you're just wasting other people's time. AF is fine for AK but not optimal for speedruns. You should definitely not be using AF past HM Ifrit. And if you're too lazy to at least get the best GC weapon then you definitely shouldn't be doing endgame content.

[Kyriea]

It's not really about being elitist. You have to stop being lazy with your gear at endgame because things get difficult. If you aren't properly geared then you're just wasting other people's time. AF is fine for AK but not optimal for speedruns. You should definitely not be using AF past HM Ifrit. And if you're too lazy to at least get the best GC weapon then you definitely shouldn't be doing endgame content.

See this is where my point comes in. Too lazy to get the best GC weapon? But wait a second, the best GC weapon is available once you beat AK, so your point is invalid. That would mean people aren't being lazy with their gear, they are actually doing exactly what you're saying and getting the best GC weapon.

[LunarEmerald]

See this is where my point comes in. Too lazy to get the best GC weapon? But wait a second, the best GC weapon is available once you beat AK, so your point is invalid. That would mean people aren't being lazy with their gear, they are actually doing exactly what you're saying and getting the best GC weapon.

I know that. I was referring to HM primals with that remark. I already said AF is fine for AK. AK is actually the best place to start upgrading from AF.

[Kyriea]

I know that. I was referring to HM primals with that remark. I already said AF is fine for AK. AK is actually the best place to start upgrading from AF.

My bad I thought you were also meaning you should get GC weapon before doing AK, but it does prove that according to SE AK should be possible when you complete the story (with AF). The communities attitude is what puts people off running it because everyone demands perfect gear or leaves and wastes your time. It is the problem with attitudes at the moment in duty finder rather than actual difficulty.

Um what? There is no Darklight weapon. The only "weapons" that drop in Palace are the blunted weapons and pieces to make the weapons required for A Relic Reborn. And those weapons are really damned expensive to get crafted or buy depending on the class.

The darklight weapons are the weapons that drop from the Tonberry king - the main reward from doing the dungeon.

[SakuraInoue]

@ Op, can I have your stuff before you quit, only gear level 90 please

[Xaphire]

That would mean people aren't being lazy with their gear, they are actually doing exactly what you're saying and getting the best GC weapon.

You don't even need to bother with the L50 GC weapon, you can farm Wanderer's Palace for the Darklight weapon which is on par with the GC weapon.