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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenogias View Post
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    I don't really care if you're proud of where you're born and feel the need to defend it. That's pretty irrelevant. The international community doesn't hold such an opinion without some basis in truth. Every nation has good and bad, but when your nation has a reputation for flat out ignorance, self-entitlement, and an impetuous view of those that aren't part of your nation, something is wrong. And you already restated what I stated about the education system, which is a joke in itself, but that's too far off topic and delves more into social stratification, etc.

    After all, you don't really hear Europeans bitching at people for not speaking *insert language* in this game when someone speaks their native language just because they can't understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    when your nation has a reputation for flat out ignorance, self-entitlement, and an impetuous view of those that aren't part of your nation, something is wrong.
    Statements like that only just parrots the opinions of over exaggerated satire and sensationalism stemming from ignorance and paranoia.

    I don't control what other people think of me and my nation. I live my life as I see fit. If others have an issue with that, it's on them and I have no reason to change for people who already hate me. Now there is certainly something to be said about socially acceptable behavior and being able to tactfully represent yourself to avoid unnecessary drama and conflict, but those that feed on judgement and prejudice based on cherry picking stereotypes? I don't need them to like me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    After all, you don't really hear Europeans bitching at people for not speaking *insert language* in this game when someone speaks their native language just because they can't understand it.
    Nor did I ever hear Americans or Canadians complaining about that either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Statements like that only just parrots the opinions of over exaggerated satire and sensationalism stemming from ignorance and paranoia.

    I don't control what other people think of me and my nation. I live my life as I see fit. If others have an issue with that, it's on them and I have no reason to change for people who already hate me. Now there is certainly something to be said about socially acceptable behavior and being able to tactfully represent yourself to avoid unnecessary drama and conflict, but those that feed on judgement and prejudice based on cherry picking stereotypes? I don't need them to like me.
    Again, my opinions are formed based on my experiences/interactions. Not satire/sensationalism/paranoia. In fact, I'm not even sure what I would need to be paranoid about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    Again, my opinions are formed based on my experiences/interactions.
    Personal experiences are often clouded by preconceived notions. That's just human nature. A defense mechanism.

    The paranoia is the expectation that some will behave in such a detracting way, so you focus in on anything resembling it. Allowing it to grow and fester. That's how bigotry works. It's how prejudice is formed.
    It happens to all of us. Like expecting a jock to be dumb or a nerd to watch anime. We fuel these preconceived notions by pointing out where we see it most and ignoring all the instances where it isn't true.

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    We are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldowner View Post

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    Dear Final Fantasy 14 Community,

    Who is John Galt?
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    Politeness costs nothing and once you except that there will be people that are better and worse then you there is no reason for some of the pure abuse I've seen on both the forums and in game. From my experience this type of attitude is certainly more prevelant on the internet then in the real world. It seems that as soon as there is anonymity people feel they can be rude and abusive with little or no consequences for their actions

    Unfortunately things like "treat people like you would like to be treated" and "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" seem to have been missed by a section of society........
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    Respect is earned, not something that is instantly given. Now this thing that a lot of people have seemed to have forgotten is something called Common Decency. The golden rule. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. I believe it is no longer taught, and in a society where we are used to getting what we want, when we want, not learning it becomes a detriment to us all. Stereotypes have a basis in truth but to judge an entire continent on those things? Yeah we're all 400 lb, rifle toting freaks on this side of the pond thanks! It is insulting and degrading to those of us who actually try to live our lives based off some moral codes.
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