Post your ideas for how to fix FATES

[Soulburn32]

Like them are not they are here to stay in some way shape or form, we need to try and come up with a solution for the current FATE system.

I know most of these have probably already been posted somewhere but here is my suggestions please post your own.

* A limit on how fates you can do in a day/week whatever and get exp awarded. You are still allowed to get seals for your GC but you are only allowed so many exp rewards; something like the leve quest allowances.

* Significantly lower the spawn rate for fates, encouraging people to grind mobs in the zone while grouped up waiting for fates to get a nice burst of exp while chain grinding. This would also encourage people to do fates for their proper level instead of smashing lower level zones areas.

* Award a higher amount of GC seals for replaying dungeons than you can get from FATES, this would encourage more people to que into duty finder as an alternate method of getting GC seals than just leve quests and FATES.

* Award seals for chaining mobs in a group or solo. An extra bonus lets say 10 - 15% is added for chaining in the zones of your chosen GC territory encouraging you to meet other members of your GC but not limiting you to only grind in that region.

* Re add a server wide LFG system to help people group up. The hardest thing about grouping up now is you can only shout in your current zone, ask your linkshell or your FC; which can be limiting when looking for group members for content.

[Ariyn]

The only problem with this is that once you're leveling you other classes past your main fates become the main way to level. Dungeons don't give enough xp. In the 40s it takes roughly 8-9 runs usually to get a level. If you figure 30-40 mins a run that's 4 hours at best with no queue times. You can get that same level from fates in less then half the time.

Grinding mobs, while I like the idea, is not very efficient either. Even with high chains the mob xp simply is too low. If I need 420k to level and I am getting 200xp per kill that's not a very good ratio. At 250 xp per kill in order to get 420k I'd need to grind out 1680 mobs. Lets say the average time to kill a mob is 30 seconds (some more some less), that means I would need to mob grind for 14 hours to get ONE level.

Simply put, until they fix the xp gains from other sources FATEs are the way to go and that is why people do them constantly. There are no other ways that even come close when leveling. It's a huge problem

[Darji]

Do not allow people in parties getting experience except for stuff like Odin and Behemoth and maybe some bosses. Disable infinite spwans as well. There are fates where you can get 150k+ if you don't hand in items.

Also give more rewards for dungeons. For example based on how you do and it what time you do it.

[Super_Luigi]

There are fates where you can get 150k+ if you don't hand in items.

Which fates give you this much?

[Jinko]

Remove all Zergs, have all FATES be boss style fights, simple.

Have a join party pop up when entering a fate circle, similar to Rift, healing in Fates especially the higher level ones is a joke with no auto party.

This is common sense SE, foster some community play and force people to learn their class.

This Zerg nonsense is just bad !

[rabbitzero]

Remove all Zergs, have all FATES be boss style fights, simple.

Terrible idea, i think, because then you are boned if you try to do one and are in a zone that it's farmed. I'll do random ones i come across during questing, and if it's just me, those boss ones are near impossible to finish in the time. Making them all like that would just punish those who don't farm, as the farmers would take them down just as fast.

Maybe making them scale in difficulty with the amount of people around would help, i don't know though. People will always try and find the fastest xp/min, and do those the most.

[Tetsaru]

My thoughts:

- Remove the culling in the Behemoth and Odin fights. It's retarded not being able to see the very thing you went out to fight 99% of the time.

- In large-scale battles like Behemoth and Odin, have a large, easily visible reward chest appear in the world in a designated spot for participating players to access after successfully defeating the necessary enemies.

- Encourage better rewards for high/max-level players that are scaled down in lower-level FATES. As a Lv50 PLD, I only get a measly 5 gil for helping out, and no exp. It'd be nice to see an alternative use for exp for something (not just from FATE's but in general), such as currency for buying specific items, merit points, etc.

- Don't lock us out of our moves/abilities when scaling down our level (this should go for dungeons too).

- Have more FATE "chains" and meta-events where one FATE leads to another, or different FATE's can occur depending on the outcome of a previous one (such as successfully or unsuccessfully defending a camp from beastmen, etc.).

- Be wary of FATE placement in regards to other quest/leve locations, gathering nodes, etc.

[geekgirl101]

Phase the FATEs so that there's not an overload of players hitting the same one unless they're in the same party. I dunno what's the recommended number of players at say a boss fight, maybe 20? So if 20 people are already at that one then everyone else attempting to join will enter a different phase with a different boss. That should help with both the lag and reduce zerging without all this reduce how many FATEs per day/week and gimme more coin.

[cane]

* Lower spawn rates
* Higher rewards
* Longer durations with several phases
* More diversity
* Balance so that AoE / Ranged DPS isn't getting all the rewards

[Sin_Nombre]

Fate XP is fine. Try leveling a second, third, or 8th class to 50 without it. If you don't like the rewards for fates because you think it makes getting to 50 to easy, how about you just don't do them? Nobody is forcing you to. People need to stop trying to impose their will on the rest of us. You don't speak for the whole playerbase.

They only thing they need to do is increase the amount of money that you get as a reward. Especially for level45+ fates. Gear repairs are stupid. With AF1 on my paladin I easily spend 1500 gil to repair after each dungeon.