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    Vaen Tribal
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    Why the big rush, friend?

    Why does it seem like so many people are sacrificing fun in a mad dash to level 50 and the best gear?

    There's so much more to enjoy on the wonderful subcontinent of Eorzea than spamming Fates for exp and dungeon speed runs for gear. Fates and dungeons are more fun if you balance them with other activities, anyway.

    "BUT VAEN, WHA' ELSE CN I DO BESIDES SPAMMING TH' SAME SMALL PORTION OF TH' CONTENT OVER AN' OVER???," you ask me in your best fake cockney accent.

    Well, pal, I have a few ideas.

    Level another class a bit. Some of the level class quests have really great characters and stories. They're worth checking out.

    You could try a tradecraft. Yeah, they're not financially rewarding at low levels, but there's still a lot to gain. I've easily made 100,000 gil over the past week with a little bit of clever level 30 LTW & GSM sales on the trading boards. (Though I'm on a Legacy server so maybe your mileage will vary.) Crafting can be a little slow, so I recommend listening to a good podcast while you do it. It makes for a very nice experience.

    Most especially, I recommend taking the time to explore and find good screenshot opportunities. Especially in this gorgeous world, it's a lot of fun I really enjoyed taking shots of me and my newfound backup dancers:



    I know there's lots of other great things to enjoy in this game too. Anyone else have any good examples?

    But yeah, take some time and smell the mandragoras. You might find that things a lot of people are complaining about, like gil, dungeon frustrations, fate overcrowding, and so on, won't be as big a thorn in your side.

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    Last edited by Vaen; 09-11-2013 at 11:13 AM.
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    "Why does it seem like so many people are sacrificing fun in a mad dash to level 50 and the best gear?"

    I stopped reading after this because this assumes that everybody thinks rushing to 50 and getting the best gear isn't fun, which isn't at all true and therefore devalues the remainder of your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    "Why does it seem like so many people are sacrificing fun in a mad dash to level 50 and the best gear?"

    I stopped reading after this because this assumes that everybody thinks rushing to 50 and getting the best gear isn't fun, which isn't at all true and therefore devalues the remainder of your post.
    Hey, if you have fun spamming fates and doing dungeon speedruns, more power to you. (As long as you don't force other people to skip cutscenes on their first time. And as long as you don't berate the game too much for having gil/gameplay problems when you play in a way the devs didn't intend.)

    I didn't say no one could have fun rushing. That's great if you enjoy it. It just seems like certain very vocal players are having all these unfun issues related to rushing, and maybe if they took a lil chill pill and enjoyed some other parts of the game, these issues would be alleviated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vantwan View Post
    Because the 1 month trial is running out.
    Hah! That's a sad truth, I guess. Why not support this great game that they worked so hard making, at least for another month? Plus, a lot of great new content is coming up after the trial runs out, anyway.
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    Last edited by Vaen; 09-11-2013 at 12:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaen View Post
    It just seems like certain very vocal players are having all these unfun issues related to rushing, and maybe if they took a lil chill pill and enjoyed some other parts of the game, these issues would be alleviated.
    If you think gil problems is because people rushing to 50 you are dead wrong. Bad end game design is the problem. and no i don't want to craft i absolutely hate crafting. In any other MMo i was rewarded for doing what i like, in this game i'm only punished, that is a flawed design.
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    Last edited by VanillaH; 09-11-2013 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaH View Post
    If you think gil problems is because people rushing to 50 you are dead wrong. Bad end game design is the problem. and no i don't want to craft i absolutely hate crafting. In any other MMo i was rewarded for doing what i like, in this game i'm only punished, that is a flawed design.
    That's not a design flaw. That's like being used to shooters with regening health and then playing one that doesn't and saying it's a design flaw. It's just a different style, although one you may not like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seniade View Post
    That's not a design flaw. That's like being used to shooters with regening health and then playing one that doesn't and saying it's a design flaw. It's just a different style, although one you may not like.
    So true, I just hope SE learns to not listen to this vocal minority. Last thing we need is a game with reasonable difficulty turned into WoW, I like the difficutly, and if SE is willing to ignore and risk losing these people to keep a good game it would be an MMO that will last a decade.
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    “Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seniade View Post
    That's not a design flaw. That's like being used to shooters with regening health and then playing one that doesn't and saying it's a design flaw. It's just a different style, although one you may not like.
    No, regenerating health is basic game design, while game preventing people from enjoying it and unbalanced economy is a bad design, very different. It has nothing, ABSOLUTLEY nothing to do with difficulty , crafting is not difficult. I just choosing not to partake in this activity because i don't like to do it, just as people don't like to be support classes. Game needs a balance where everyone is making money not just crafters, it may not be a huge income (compared to crafting and playing on market) but it must be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    "Why does it seem like so many people are sacrificing fun in a mad dash to level 50 and the best gear?"

    I stopped reading after this because this assumes that everybody thinks rushing to 50 and getting the best gear isn't fun, which isn't at all true and therefore devalues the remainder of your post.
    Actually, given that the forum is filled with "omgz fate grinding is SUCH a boring zergfest but its so fast" posts, the assumption that *most people* are rushing to 50 and not enjoying the World is a fair one.

    He also didn't say "all people" just "most"
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    They want to get to 'beat the game' before the next MMO comes out.
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    Because the 1 month trial is running out.
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