Gearscore is coming!

[bareheiny]

DCUO has a similar concept called Combat Rating (CR) - and a number of instances are either CR locked (you can't queue up if you don't meet the minimum CR), or CR loot-locked (you can walk into the instance, but you won't get loot if you're below the minimum CR).

One of the more recent DLC has raids that require a CR of around 86 or so to enter....LFG shouts are now "need xx role CR96+". Basically you need to finish the raid to earn the marks to get the gear to run the raid.

[Jynx]

Gearscore? *Shudder*

It's a shame another system is being put in place to crutch the failings of the duty finder. Hopefully this wont matter if you try with your friends, but I am betting it will.

[TheWitcher]

This isent really gearscore, because its governed by the system, this isent people wanting Bahamut coil gear to do garuda HM's

[Jinko]

Gearscore? *Shudder*

It's a shame another system is being put in place to crutch the failings of the duty finder. Hopefully this wont matter if you try with your friends, but I am betting it will.

This isn't endemic to DF, you can pick up 8 randoms on your own server and half of them can be poorly geared, you can do this with your LS or FC also.

I am tired of people trying to defend their laziness so someone else can pick up their slack.

If you don't have the time to gear up, you don't have the time to do harder content, it's really not that hard to gear up in this game.

Problem is also that many people are skipping WP and going straight to AK, I hope the gear checks will stop this from happening.

[Brolleun-Hunter]

This isn't endemic to DF, you can pick up 8 randoms on your own server and half of them can be poorly geared, you can do this with your LS or FC also.

I am tired of people trying to defend their laziness so someone else can pick up their slack.

If you don't have the time to gear up, you don't have the time to do harder content, it's really not that hard to gear up in this game.

Problem is also that many people are skipping WP and going straight to AK, I hope the gear checks will stop this from happening.

[Yshnal]

The problem with the GS is not that you can't enter a dungeon if you're below the required minimum, as that's a good idea, but that we'll have a plague of players asking unrealistic GS numbers and creating a bad mood/environment within the community. If you ask me, the GS number should be private. If someone is curious enough to double check it they can always inspect your gear, as just checking a GS number is not enough, as many of you know (they could manipulate the system).

So, to make it short, why give more tools to the jerks to jerk around easier? It's too bad already with what we have (see current dungeon discussions).

[ElHeggunte]

The problem with the GS is not that you can't enter a dungeon if you're below the required minimum, as that's a good idea, but that we'll have a plague of players asking unrealistic GS numbers and...

...So, to make it short, why give more tools to the jerks to jerk around easier? It's too bad already with what we have (see current dungeon discussions).

So don't run with those types of people and make your own groups or go with friends. People being jerks isn't a good reason to not implement a necessary system. A minimum ilevel for queuing for high-level instances is a good thing no matter how you slice it. Skill can only get you so far and if you're undergeared for the content you're just screwing over the other people in your group who came prepared. Duty Finder lumps you together with perfect strangers so there needs to be a little bit of insurance in place to give you a shot at clearing the content.

[Yshnal]

So don't run with those types of people and make your own groups or go with friends. People being jerks isn't a good reason to not implement a necessary system. A minimum ilevel for queuing for high-level instances is a good thing no matter how you slice it. Skill can only get you so far and if you're undergeared for the content you're just screwing over the other people in your group who came prepared. Duty Finder lumps you together with perfect strangers so there needs to be a little bit of insurance in place to give you a shot at clearing the content.

Re-read what I said, please, as I think that you misunderstood what I wrote. I said that the internal GS requirement for dungeons is somewhat needed (as a simple and reasonable internal filter) for pug groups, but that the visible part of it will just make it easier for griefers to grief. Say whatever you want, but it's a fact that it would affect the community in general even if you don't run with them.

Also, as I said that number alone is useless. As a tank I could equip an "All classes" healer set that gives me enough GS to enter the dungeon. That's why, if you really want that someone has proper gear, it's the players responsability to double check the details instead of just looking on a single general number (as do bad players).

Implement it with a reasonable required minimum iLvl, but make it an internal value not seen by anyone but the system. If it deems your gear apropiate to enter the dungeon, no one should complain or try to force anyone to bring better gear for it (unless they make their own group outside of the duty finder, of course, but even then the general GS value isn't needed nor really useful for the reasons that I stated).

[texhnolyze]

i have questions about the gearscore..

what if we want to help the fresh 50s of our FC to do some high gearscore duty?
will it be totally cannot be done?
will they make it that we can turn on/off the gearscore requirements?

[SKYeXile]

i have questions about the gearscore..

what if we want to help the fresh 50s of our FC to do some high gearscore duty?
will it be totally cannot be done?
will they make it that we can turn on/off the gearscore requirements?

i would hope for preformed partys there would be no iLvl requirement as its then your choice to be carrying that person.