Players that complain about having to do Dungeons

[OrganizationXIll]

The other day I was in copperbell with my sub character and I run into the people that are angry. I ask them what is wrong and they reply with "i h8 havn to do dis ????." and "yea this is so dumb that we are forced to run these dungeons to progress in the story." I ask them why are dungeons ???? and he replies "I don wana play wid othr peple. I just wana kill ???? and lvl up." I told him he might want to look into other Final Fantasies or wait for 15. The 2nd guy then replies with "but why cant we just play this one and ignore everyone?"

I just dropped it and didn't reply on the subject again. Then they just spammed Blizzard II the whole time and then yelled at me (Healer) when they died. I told them they probably shouldn't use blizzard II until later (would tell them when the really weak spiggans spawn) but they didn't ever stop and kept saying "i do wut i want"

I ask this: Why are they playing a Massively Multiplayer Online game when they just want to play by themselves? This game is party oriented and they protest it with every fiber of their being. Are there possibly any people with similar mindsets on here? Could you maturely explain your reasoning? I am genuinely curious.

EDIT:

Why do you make the assumption that because we dont want to group with other players, that we dont want to interact with them at all? You assume that if someone is not playing the game exactly how you would have it played, that they have no good reason and should just find another game (god forbid they play that one differently than you).

Skyrim has what...one expansion? How is this a suitable replacement for an MMORPG? Even if they had the same amount of content (or you counted user generated content, which I vehemently do not), its not even remotely the same type of game.

You may not mind it, but those guys said lots of other things to that effect, as have about 50% of Duty Finder people. Also, I'm not saying Skyrim is a replacement for an MMO, but with an MMO comes party requirements. It isn't that they don't play they way I want. -_- It's that they complain about having to do the dungeons and purposefully screw up the run because they are angry they are being made to play the main portion of the game. It baffles me and I want some insight on why they expect to not have to play in a group on an MMO.

Also, I am not here complaining about having to play with them. I chose to play with the duty finder as to add my aid to the long waits for DPS, while my FC was offline. Please don't offer solutions to avoiding them. That isn't the point. I want to know what these players expect and why they don't like party content in the first place.

[Zantetsuken]

It's one of the big problems with the FF MMOs being part of the numbered series.

FFXI and FFXIV should have been called 'Final Fantasy Online I & II" and their numbers given to other offline games.

Too many FF-fans who are also MMO-haters become disenchanted with the idea that the next FF title is a payed-subscription, forced-multiplayer game.

So either they sour on the series, or they grudgingly play and have a bad attitude about it.

[Squats]

It's one of the big problems with the FF MMOs being part of the numbered series.

FFXI and FFXIV should have been called 'Final Fantasy Online I & II" and their numbers given to other offline games.

Too many FF-fans who are also MMO-haters become disenchanted with the idea that the next FF title is a payed-subscription, forced-multiplayer game.

So either they sour on the series, or they grudgingly play and have a bad attitude about it.

I agree somewhat, but my indroduction to MMOs was Final Fantasy 11, and I doubt I would have tried it if it weren't #11 in the series.

[Wolfie]

ELI5 version:

To some people, MMO does not mean forced grouping. They hate the idea of being forced to group, but some will gladly group at their convenience. Their main draw is the large, permanent world and story. I think SE did a very good job with the main story in this game because I don't mind the dungeons, but I can see how frustrating it can get for people that play DPS classes or that don't like being forced to group to finish the main storyline of a game.

[Yshnal]

ELI5 version:

To some people, MMO does not mean forced grouping. They hate the idea of being forced to group, but some will gladly group at their convenience. Their main draw is the large, permanent world and story. I think SE did a very good job with the main story in this game because I don't mind the dungeons, but I can see how frustrating it can get for people that play DPS classes or that don't like being forced to group to finish the main storyline of a game.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. However, that doesn't entitle them to act like jerks, like the ones the OP mentions. People like those are the ones that give a bad name to the "solo" community.

[Itchyness]

Just seems some people are extremely anti-social and don't realize that dungeon runs actually teach basic concepts of raid play, which there are PLENTY of people that still need this ejumukashun about this system.

[Cyroselle]

Just seems some people are extremely anti-social and don't realize that dungeon runs actually teach basic concepts of raid play, which there are PLENTY of people that still need this ejumukashun about this system.

They might also play at odd hours, or be more interested in duo gameplay over group. But that's the good thing about MMOs, the variety of gameplay.

Most of the time.

[Bulwyf]

I hate with a passion forced instances. The main story is for *my* character and as such it should be done solo and not require others. The entire main story tells you how great and wonderful your character is and then randomly you are forced to group with other people just to continue the story. You also are forced to do it just to have basic MMO necessities like mounts, rep grinding (ie grand companies) airship travel to other cities and using the AH with a retainer.

It is not unusual that a large percentage of MMO players prefer to play solo. It is their monthly sub to play as they want. I frankly think the forced grouping in this game is a huge negative.

To further clarify why I hate it: being forced to use duty finder to fill out a group and having incompetent morons in your group or people who intentionally screw up on purpose to grief the other people in the group. I have run across many of those people while doing dungeons.

[Wobi]

I hate with a passion forced instances. The main story is for *my* character and as such it should be done solo and not require others. The entire main story tells you how great and wonderful your character is and then randomly you are forced to group with other people just to continue the story. You also are forced to do it just to have basic MMO necessities like mounts, rep grinding (ie grand companies) airship travel to other cities and using the AH with a retainer.

It is not unusual that a large percentage of MMO players prefer to play solo. It is their monthly sub to play as they want. I frankly think the forced grouping in this game is a huge negative.

To further clarify why I hate it: being forced to use duty finder to fill out a group and having incompetent morons in your group or people who intentionally screw up on purpose to grief the other people in the group. I have run across many of those people while doing dungeons.

Why play an MMO then? You know you will have to interact with other people, find yourself a nice LS/Free Company and group with those people and you won't have to deal with random Duty Finder people. Some of them are great, others... well I think we all know how bad it can get.

[BloodyLadius]

I tend to play alone and soloist content just cause I don't like talking very much with other people. I just prefer to be silent but if I need to talk to people and get into groups to progress or get help with what I need to get further to we're I wanna be at then I gladly play with other and be polite cause what's the point in being rude. If you truly hate people that mug that you can't even deal with a group then go by an old console system with no online ability and play those games. The current game community is based on a playing with other when need be to beat the game.. When it come to mmo's you best be able to play with other or just stop playing all together.