Seriously give the game time?

[Cendres]

I wish we could vote to get threads locked sometimes... @Delmacia. The door it's that way >>>> Improvement does not equal total change. Wrap your head around the concept, no really it won't hurt I promise.

[Demacia]

I wish we could vote to get threads locked sometimes... @Delmacia. The door it's that way >>>> Improvement does not equal total change. Wrap your head around the concept, no really it won't hurt I promise.

Try wrapping your head around the idea that unique and different does not equal good. When a game is fundamentally flawed, total change can indeed equal improvement. Try thinking outside the box, it won't hurt I promise.

[Cendres]

Try wrapping your head around the idea that unique and different does not equal good. When a game is fundamentally flawed, total change can indeed equal improvement. Try thinking outside the box, it won't hurt I promise.

This game is outside the box sweetie. Again you want the box there's a few pretty ones already available.

[Demacia]

This game is outside the box sweetie. Again you want the box there's a few pretty ones already available.

Did I once mention copying other games? I was excited for this game's release precisely because it would be something new and different, but it just so happens that these features are part of what makes the game terrible. I am not saying go back to old systems, but I am saying that the current ones need to be reworked. Even then, bringing back GOOD features from other games will not hurt this at all.

[Cendres]

Did I once mention copying other games? I was excited for this game's release precisely because it would be something new and different, but it just so happens that these features are part of what makes the game terrible. I am not saying go back to old systems, but I am saying that the current ones need to be reworked. Even then, bringing back GOOD features from other games will not hurt this at all.

So you're saying that you're agreeing with me? How strange we come to this conclusion, you might want to share this amazing discovery with the OP.

[Demacia]

So you're saying that you're agreeing with me? How strange we come to this conclusion, you might want to share this amazing discovery with the OP.

Not really. I just seek the middle ground between the hardcore "Make it exactly like WoW/FFXI/Rift" crowd and the ridiculous "This game is great, it just needs a few tweeks!" horde. The state of this game just baffles me completely. What gets me is that the people who defend this game find the silliest excuses to back up their arguments. For example: In another thread a person plays off the black shroud's design by saying "Have you been to a forest? It's full of trees! You don't see temples every 50 meters". Really guys?

I quit FFXI for this game because I thought "Wow, after 6 years of playing this game SE will finally make a brand new MMO with brand new everything woo 2010". Force myself to trudge through the shitswamp that is FFXIV for 3 months before deciding that masochism wasn't my thing and went back to an 8 year old game that is somehow still more advanced than one that was released in 2010 by the same company. I just don't get it. Again, I don't want XIV to be an FFXI clone, but I do want that feeling of "Wow I can't wait to level up and explore this world" that FFXI (and even Everquest) provided.

[Nuru]

Not really. I just seek the middle ground between the hardcore "Make it exactly like WoW/FFXI/Rift" crowd and the ridiculous "This game is great, it just needs a few tweeks!" horde. The state of this game just baffles me completely. What gets me is that the people who defend this game find the silliest excuses to back up their arguments. For example: In another thread a person plays off the black shroud's design by saying "Have you been to a forest? It's full of trees! You don't see temples every 50 meters". Really guys?

I quit FFXI for this game because I thought "Wow, after 6 years of playing this game SE will finally make a brand new MMO with brand new everything woo 2010". Force myself to trudge through the shitswamp that is FFXIV for 3 months before deciding that masochism wasn't my thing and went back to an 8 year old game that is somehow still more advanced than one that was released in 2010 by the same company. I just don't get it. Again, I don't want XIV to be an FFXI clone, but I do want that feeling of "Wow I can't wait to level up and explore this world" that FFXI (and even Everquest) provided.

To be honest, as i was reading through the posts, you haven't really made that clear enough until now. =o

[Cendres]

Not really. I just seek the middle ground between the hardcore "Make it exactly like WoW/FFXI/Rift" crowd and the ridiculous "This game is great, it just needs a few tweeks!" horde.

Yes really you just made that plain. The problem with generalizing people and stuffing them in categories is that you don't see what's right in front of your face. The vast majority of people posting here regularly want the game to improve, we want it to see it grow and have fun with it. But we do not always agree on the same features to be implemented or improved. That doesn't make some of us stupid or blind. There are times I agree with the same posters I completely disagree with on other points. That's normal.

I would like to see this community work together not keeping to accuse and demoralize each other as this thread in my opinion does.

Anyway that's it for me on that. See you on other threads.

[Elexia]

Try wrapping your head around the idea that unique and different does not equal good.

Unique and different is why the game industry moved forward.

[Ostia]

Unique and different is why the game industry moved forward.

Nor really, convenient >>>> Unique different