Marking Targets - Necessary?

[Tirocupidus]

As a tank, I think <attack1> is the most useful for me. I expect DPS to assist me, and rather than changing their assist macro for each new tank, I think they should have one that says "/ta <attack1>".

Edit: I suppose they could also set the tank as their focus target and use "/as <f>", but I like the <attack1> option.

[Supersomething]

I think of it this way... If you are grouped with random people out of the DF then these people cannot read minds. Life becomes infinitely easier if when you just throw up a 1, 2, 3 kill order and at least mention to the other members that if they have CC then use it on the secondary mobs.

If you are on skype, vent, mumble, ts, or whatever then no marking will probably be as necessary. However as a tank myself I have all of my marks hot keyed and I can just throw them up while moving towards the mobs and have the entire pack marked and ready to go. Makes every single dungeon exceptionally easier. In addition to mapping out your plan of attack it also allows you to figure out if you have douche canoe dps and then you can let them tank after that point.

[avaughnimous]

Marking targets is quite useful and necessary. As a tank, I've found it really helps to do this so my dps doesn't focus on any targets out of order and wrest aggro from me. It removes most of the element of uncertainty.

[Rockhard12]

Why wouldnt you? if you're rolling with PUGs it just reduces the chances of things going wrong. I like most people would like to think all DPS know how to assist, but this is simply not the case.

[Shibi]

It is *very* appreciated in pugs and it helps as you rotate through the mobs on you.

I will premark a sleep then only mark the one I wish the DPS to focus on. It ensures I can switch to the others and keep my agro on them higher than the healer without needing to fight DPS on all mobs as well.

Just needs 2 marks brought to your hotbar.

[TheWitcher]

id rather not teach dps to be lazy and rely on it, if dps are so bad that they require big numbers above their heads i really dont want to be tanking for them anyways

[Viik]

I mark the targets mostly for the sake of my own sanity, I hate it when people DPS different mobs or focus on the least threatening targets rather than going after the mob that keeps AoE'ing the party. The way I do it is just keep the Marking box open (right-click target's healthbar in your UI and choose Mark from the dropdown list to open it) while I'm in a dungeon and just put "1" on the first target, do the pull and add "2" target before the first one is dead, so DPS has time to react and plan ahead. Since I'm only putting up one target and doing it "on the run", it doesn't slow down the pace and probably even makes it faster compared to not marking at all.

Expecting DPS to follow my target doesn't work well for two reasons;
1. It's slower and less convenient than just picking a mob (yes, you can use macros but most people don't)
2. As a tank, I keep switching around to build threat and stun secondary targets when there's enough buffer on the one we're killing right now.

[chishi]

/macroicon "Shield Lob"
/ac "Shield Lob" <t>
/mk attack1 <t>

That's about as much as I'll do for marking in a dungeon. Use it during the gcd to mark the next target. Not difficult for the DPS to understand. Makes things easier for everyone.

[gigi_frana]

as a healer often using the dungeon finder, I mark the targets some times when I see that the tank and dps are clueless.

[HoroBoro]

As a damage role often using the dungeon finder, I would like tanks to mark if they intend to switch between targets non stop.

Nothing like attacking the pulled mob, and get aggro 5 secs later. Then click on the tank and hotkey for attack target's target. Then surprise - 10 secs later, getting aggro again because tank decided to switch to a 3rd target.

At least if they mark it, I'll get some warning before switching.

Oh and please check if target is "fully rested" if I try to sleep it. That means... I can't sleep it.