Vote kick!

[Deltaspirit]

I'm torn on this one.

I have definitely seen the need for one though. I've had a couple of runs where someone was doing something very wrong, and everyone else explained how to do it, or what was being done wrong. Then this last for the entire dungeon, us explaining, them not listening (or even talking)

there are ways to implement it too, like an earlier post said "what about loooooot". You code it so kicks can't be done during loot rolls.

That being said, maybe a vote to kick isn't the right thing, and maybe there's another solution?

[EdwinLi]

That being said, maybe a vote to kick isn't the right thing, and maybe there's another solution?

The solution has always been a simple one. When someone is viewing a cutscene in the group the Timer should stop until everyone is finished with the cutscene and begin again once all group members are finished with the cutscene. Also, players cannot harm enemies during the cutscene progressing nor be harmed themselves and they can't obtain aggro since the Timer is not running yet until all players are done with the cutscene.

[KaiKatzchen]

I don't even see why we need the Duty Finder... it's seems the longer it's around the more and more issues are coming about from it. People being rude, people wanting to kick people, people getting mad because half the group wants to watch cut scenes while the other half wants a speed run. People not doing their job because they aren't 'getting what they want'. People just leaving parties and abandoning people just because they can.

People are basically acting like children, and we never had all these issues in FFXI and in 1.0 when Duty Finder did not exist. If we did, it was on server and we could deal with that individual as a world community.

[Neroh]

To be honest i sit on the fence about this issue.

I did have a few terrible runs where rude and mean people acted like jerks, went afk every few minutes or decided tactics are for n00bs and refused to do anything but cause wipes, blame everyone else and get upset upon being told the truth.

But on the other hand, i also had many players claim they wanted to kick someone simply because they made ONE mistake, because they wanted to watch the cutscenes or simply because they refused to skip mobs as they were not comfortable with it.

This guy gets it. It's really a double-edged sword, and no matter what you do you'll have people abusing the current system. No kicks allowed? You'll get AFKers and lone wolves that feel the need to go off and do their own thing. Add the ability to kick? You'll get leaders that want things done THEIR way and ONLY their way. It's a touchy subject.