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    Uzziah Jehiel
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    Gathering % Rates

    I sure wish SE would post the correct percentages for items and your success rate. Sure you can say something is 85% and then always make us miss 3 or 4 out of 6 tries and say ... well... 85% is still 15 misses out of 100. That is true but we only get 6 tries/swings and I nearly never end up with a percentage of success that the number on the items indicate.

    Quit jerking us around and just put 40% or 20% when that's your intent in the first place.

    Game is riddled with that kind of crap and SE knows it!
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    Kenkh Pirrenka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzziah View Post
    I sure wish SE would post the correct percentages for items and your success rate. Sure you can say something is 85% and then always make us miss 3 or 4 out of 6 tries and say ... well... 85% is still 15 misses out of 100. That is true but we only get 6 tries/swings and I nearly never end up with a percentage of success that the number on the items indicate.

    Quit jerking us around and just put 40% or 20% when that's your intent in the first place.

    Game is riddled with that kind of crap and SE knows it!
    I like to believe that, given enough tries, the hit/miss percentage will match the displayed values.

    You can get 3 HQs in a row with only a 15% chance, but you won't complain about that, will you? :P
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    Uta Hikari
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    85% means just that. It does not make you magically immune to failures after 2 consecutive failures, for example. It's like flipping the coin - no way you are guaranteed to see "heads" at least once in 2, 3, 4 or even 10 flips.
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    Mazo Bazo
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    Unless you are keeping track of it over at least 500 attempts the misses will be misleading. A % is just a chance so in theory you could actually never miss and just get really lucky. While someone could miss every time. However like said above, the more you gather and keep notes the more you will see it move towards that average of 80%.
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    Gummy Kumi
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    I just had misses 5 in a row on a 79% tree. That is 0.21^5 = 0.0004084. In other word, this "5 misses in a row" would occur every 2448.5 tree that I gather. In general, I think it is reasonable consider how many trees you have to break to get one level....
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    Adrianna Bellini
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    RNG is a meanyhead.
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    So you know its 85% for each swing, right? I mean, I can't flip a coin, get heads, and guarantee tails the next time b/c it's 50%.
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Ya I've noticed this as well. It seems very consistent, that you'll have say a tree or mining point that says 97-99%, and you will miss a hit nearly every time you hit that particular tree/mining point. I'll admit it doesn't happen all the time, but it happens more often then not, making you feel like there is a misrepresentation of the %. I spent about 4 hours last night mining over in the desert region, mining up mythril ore. I had one point that was 97% when I started out, and it got to 100% eventually, from me leveling and equipping better gear. But before I hit 100% it was nearly every time I hit that point, i would miss once, and I'm like wth. I know its not 100%, but statistically I shouldn't miss maybe a few times during my visit to that spot for the evening. It feels like there is still some kind of random number generator going into effect on this stuff.
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    Thats just bad luck. I have had times where I miss there but the majority of the time but normally would go 5-6 nodes without a miss past 95%
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    Can't tell you the amount of times 93% = 0%
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