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  1. #21
    Player
    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
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    Shaggy Grant
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    My first dungeon when I got scholar unlocked, haukke manor, our tank was great..... at single targets, but with more than 1 mob, my fairy become the tank for the 2 adds and the tank just tunneled the one other mob.

    I chalked it up to just unlucky, until the next 5 dungeons I ran. Every one the fairy ended up tanking adds. I just went through all these dungeons as a tank and I know the fairies do not pull that much agro, hell they give you a bunch of extra time because they don't start healing until 70%.

    Finally got a good tank in qarn earlier today though but with the odds of 1/6 im debating on just giving the tank until the first boss, if he sucks im going afk until someone else leaves so I don't get lockout.
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  2. #22
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    dragonflie's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Varsir Ishtear
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brumble View Post
    When you have time to tab through all mobs/pets etc. that method works. We are discussing tanking, however. Reaction time is key, since most players who pull agro will instantly run AWAY from their tank.
    You can activate a filter function with L1 + buttons
    Triangle is for all
    O is enemies (although it still targets npc and pets annoyingly, please fix SE)
    X is er party members I think, good for healers
    Square is friends, I customed mine to items only for DoL farming.
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  3. #23
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    Rydiah's Avatar
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    Character
    Sypha Belnades
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Wow, so I'm not the only one with this problem huh? I really love doing dungeons, and when I tanked, I think I did a decent job. I had seen a few tanks that were obviously new, but I had just as many good tanks. Then my husband and I started doing Brayflox...Wow, I don't even know what happened. I ran Brayflox multiple times and I had one good tank. The rest? Its almost as if they don't understand that they need to keep hate on ALL mobs instead of just one, they will ALWAYS focus on one mob. Everyone is getting hit, my fairy is constantly dying, its just a mess.

    Even with these terrible tanks, I can usually keep people alive and finish the run. In the first 3 dungeons I'll be a little more forgiving, people are still learning...but by Brayflox and Qarn you should know how to tank. Whenever I get one of these tanks who is completely clueless (which is pretty much every time now) I wonder if they just spent all their time doing fates, never really learning their role. Of course there are plenty of tanks who leveled with fates that know what they're doing.
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  4. #24
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    Melopahn's Avatar
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    Character
    Melopahn Theharmonic
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Try teaching them, This is what we do in amdapor keep. ( I run with a healer we queue together).

    first pull of the dungeon, tank pulls, I pop my enmity reducer and pull aggro on the second ability I use. Healer throws me a quick heal to keep me up pulls the second mob and the summoned mob instantly. We wipe do it again this time i wait and dont pull. The second the healer heals he pulls and we wipe again. So we start with.. "Sorry man, we didn't realize this was your first time tanking. What you want to do is throw your shield at the first mob, then hit both of them with flash... this will generate enmity or aggro as you may know it from wow" around this time they either rage quit, start flaming us, or apologize. Most of the time we can simply say... that other tanks are able to do this just fine and they accept it and do their job or let us get a real tank.

    Its sad but the world of MMOs has been ruined by WoW and everyone now feels entitled.
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  5. #25
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    Naberrie's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Inari Silverfox
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyvek View Post
    I had a really bad tank in Brayflox last night. He was a warrior who thought that tomohawk was how warriors got hate, on the last boss he only had 2 jobs stay near my fairy so me and it could chain heal together and keep hate. Well after 7 failed attempts bc neither of those things were things he could do i just walked away. FATE parties are producing really bad tanks.
    Brayflox is the reason I've started leveling a tank class. I've tried 3 times now to get thru it as SCH and all failed. One we couldn't even get to the boss. The other two the tanks just could not keep the boss out of the poison or wouldn't move out of its breath attack.

    So I finally said screw it. If I want to be thru this part of the story I apparently need to do it myself. So I'm concurrently leveling MRD and GLA right now. Figure I'll take both up so I have situational options.
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  6. #26
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    Marius's Avatar
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    Character
    Aku Mondlicht
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I have had to tell numerous tanks how to hold aggro on multiple targets. It may seem like common sense to people that have played tanks in other games, but not to everyone else. Remember that. We shouldn't have to technically tell people how to tank, but if you see a pattern, let them know. They will either start doing it or give you insults. If they give you insults just leave. Make things easier and less stress. Just sucks if you are the dps and don't roll with a healer. Sadly this is just how most group finders work. This game is a bit better than most. Just try to be friendly from the start and it usually turns out okay.
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  7. #27
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    Floyd's Avatar
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    Character
    Internet Explorer
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Naberrie View Post
    Brayflox is the reason I've started leveling a tank class. I've tried 3 times now to get thru it as SCH and all failed. One we couldn't even get to the boss. The other two the tanks just could not keep the boss out of the poison or wouldn't move out of its breath attack.

    So I finally said screw it. If I want to be thru this part of the story I apparently need to do it myself. So I'm concurrently leveling MRD and GLA right now. Figure I'll take both up so I have situational options.
    Just so you know, as a tank who HATED BRAY(after running the entire thing perfect.... ) I would run 3-4 Lalafells out of the AoE indicator, move the boss around the wall and out of the poison... And still get smacked by the breath. In some cases, it's SEs servers fault, not the poor tank almost in tears from frustration. >_>
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  8. #28
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    ThatFishySmell's Avatar
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    Character
    Omg Paperclips
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 13
    Brayflox is also a huge jump in difficulty compared to the other dungeons. When I tanked it, things were hitting twice as hards the other dungeons. Nothing I couldn't handle, but I was in pretty much the best gear I could get. I can see how other tanks would have problems, especially if they're only in white questing gear or are new to tanking.
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  9. #29
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    Alyndri's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Rune Spiritguard
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 26
    I think Brayflox is the first dungeon for a tank to make or break them. I'm a SMN but I really feel for you tanks out there!
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  10. #30
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    Mooserocka33's Avatar
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    Character
    Moose Rocca
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    I am a monk now. I just beat grey flow it took 10 different parties the tanks could not get dragon out of green. Two even refused too. The others couldn't avoid the cone. The one the tank was amazing and the healer stunk. That dungeon u need a tank that's good or ure screwed.
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    My discord is Moose#9971

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