Tanking Frustration: I blame WoW

[Tristaris]

speaking as a warrior, if a dps pulls aggro off of me it's because i got distracted in real life. if i am paying attention, no one will pull aggro off of me, ever. and i dont just sit around spamming overpower so it's not an aoe threat thing. i genuinely believe that if a tank loses aggro after the initial pull, it's the tank's fault.

I take it you haven't had a bard or caster unleash everything they have before you have even positioned yourself have you?

[Kerrath]

I take it you haven't had a bard or caster unleash everything they have before you have even positioned yourself have you?

You might want to reread my post because you missed a few words. I'll bolden them for you:

speaking as a warrior, if a dps pulls aggro off of me it's because i got distracted in real life. if i am paying attention, no one will pull aggro off of me, ever. and i dont just sit around spamming overpower so it's not an aoe threat thing. i genuinely believe that if a tank loses aggro after the initial pull, it's the tank's fault.

But really, all I need to do is land a butchers block combo and i win on threat.

[sasakusaku]

As healer, most tanks I meet do ok. Some have major issues with aggro and let me tank stuff though lol. Anyways, many DPS players in this game seem to be quite brain dead and have no clue how to play right. I mark something (or two) and sleep them....then .01 seconds later DPS are tab dotting everything in sight; these types get me killed all the time grrr. I feel the tanks pain, literally sometimes. /hugs tank who knows what he or she is doing and won't let go!

Hopefully a few face plants (or more) teaches dumb DPS a lesson eventually...

[Guammasa]

At present, if I mark targets and DD STILL pulls one off me because of not following marks I ignore them and wait to pass out Darwinism awards. Normally, the healer stops healing them after the 2nd or 3rd time they do it. I see it as a little extra entertainment to watch the bard try to kite mobs around when they AoE a slept target or just outright ignore the markers. I also love when DD call me a bad tank and the other party members come to my defense. It makes me wonder how the bad-mouthing DD feels when the other members retort at their own inability to follow number marks.


Regardless OP, welcome to the world of tanking and bad players. You will come to find them at every turn, every run, every game, and every aspect of Murphy's Law will be followed.

[rappa]

All dps knows that if you mark 1-2-3, they must hit mark 3 than hard as you can.

Usually, i not mark trash mobs, as a paladin i can hold aggro ever the dps let me do it. Sometimes and very often, at start throwing "shield lob" and mobs running to me, bards start to aoe rotation brain dead. Then, the bard have the aggro and try to kite, pulling other trash.

I use shield lob, flash and scorn meanwhile the GCD it's running, then other flash and start to hit one mob using the chain combo. After that, tab other mob, fast blade + savage blade, tab other one and execute "Halone" over him. At this point, the first mob i hit need more aggro. I use this rotation trying that all mobs have the debuff strenght. If they 4 mob or more, flash is necessary to spam.

The worst encounter will be which you need stopcast one mob, because no generate aggro, need GCD casue flash and combo chain are the same. At this moment, one bard or BLM can aggro.

[Keneblerz]

"YO MOB BITCH WHAT YOU THINK YOU DOING IMMA CUT YOU". I don't believe this part helps in pulling aggro back, but it makes me feel more connected to the moment.

ROFL This is exactly what i do when a mob goes running off XD. *Provoke + shield lob* "YO MUF*CKER WHERE U GOING!" XD

Btw this is for every tank with runaway mobs. Usually the single mob that decides to misbehave. Provoke + shield lob is insta-hate grab. Id suggest only using it for those mobs that may do serious damage to your healers.

[Avalon_Albrook]

ROFL This is exactly what i do when a mob goes running off XD. *Provoke + shield lob* "YO MUF*CKER WHERE U GOING!" XD

I say more people need to take cues from us on this. Nothing more personally satisfying then pulling aggro back while screaming profane tirades at the screen. "WHAT, OH IT'S ON NOW, PUNKASS GETTIN SHANKED FOR THAT" and other wholesome family phrasing...

(I'd give serious money to SE to add a Shank action for Paladins.)

[Tigerwong]

I think this is the 38204838102399 th time on this forum that the people blaming WoW turn out to be completely lying because like every post reveals how uneducated they are. I'm probably gonna make a compilation of these people and repost it.

Mages can invisible to reset threat.
Shadow priests can fade every 30 seconds to deal with adds without ever considering threat.
Hunters can fake death.
Rogues can vanish
Locks can use the soul gem to do his thing to reset threat.
Warriors can reset threat by using real death (loooooool) and ask for a battle res.

The main reason a tank can auto grab everything in WoW was never because of the tank, it was because of the misdirection from the hunter to misdirect all threat onto the tank. Over half of the fights starts with the Tank usually just stand still and wait for the hunter to feed the boss to him.

Every single Mage in WoW will know that if they start with infinite Arcane Blast and don't invisible, thereis no tank on earth that will hold aggro.

The list can go on and on. It was never hard to overthreat in WoW.

I'm pretty sure all WoW dpser will notice the first thing how threat is so different from WoW. Threat resetting is part of the basic rotation.

The kind of people the OP describes are just stupid and probably have never raided in WoW, or they play other crappy MMOs.

Next time you wanna blame something do more homework or someone will find out.

Seriously, no one else thinks the "instant aggro from WoW" in the OP abit too suspecting? (that he never actually played it. He can't even mention a single skill name or class name or any term at all?). Coz a rant coming from a WoW player would probably be something like "Why are there so many WoW nerds thinking they still have misdirection to open fights, or have invisibility to blow everything on the boss with no consequence at all"?

Well, you are free to copy my example for later use, no need to credit me.

[Caspian]

My main frustration comes when I have to tank multiple targets at once.
You can tell that Flash, and Shield Log do the trick - but for example in a Castrum Meridianum where you have so many ads - it doesnt always work!
With Flash, Shield Lob and very long recast for Provoke tanking those ads is very difficult.
And then I have to listen to comments like: you are zero, hopeless, FATE grinder, and so on and so on. After one Dungeon I dont want to be tank anymore - so little tolerance for a lack of skills, that its not really my fault!
I would love to see in a future better hate controll against multiple targets, and some new skills that would really give me a lot of AOE enmity.
I'm open for any suggestions - how everyone else is doing, because I tried everything - the more I try, more I get criticized!

[Zeila]

Usually when I queue I let everyone know in the beginning that I won't be picking up the slack for others, I let them know where the enmity bar is, how I will be tanking, and to ask any questions now before we run through. The success rate of this is above 50% but you do have your asshats but at least if I can teach 1 person out of the group to be a more aware player I think I've done more than I can be ask for.

Everyone wants smooth runs and to enjoy the game, I think "community" is missing from MMO's now - not many people willing to help but rather just rage from 0-60 instantly, especially from the DPS.