Tanking Frustration: I blame WoW

[Sebastien]

I feel like some of the criticism in this thread is not fair.

For example, mages that AOE all the pulls. Is that WoW's fault? Or S-E's? Yoshi stated that overabundance of AOE detracts from skillful gameplay. Yet, for a leveling thaum, AOE IS the most efficient thing to do, for groups as small as TWO! AOE should never be balanced this poorly. S-E takes the blame.

Also, be careful when you say tanking in WoW requires no skill. It's true Blizzard removed threat as a mechanic, and in leveling dungeons the tanks job is quite trivial. However, endgame tanking in WoW is incredibly demanding. Particularly in the recent Mists expansion, I can't think of any MMO in which tanking required more skill (I'm talking about high ranking HM teams not casual raiding).

That said, I certainly sympathize with everyone who has struggled with bad DPS. Even an over-eager healer can be problematic. My favorite conjurers have been the ones that spend their first few GCD's sleeping adds. It gives me time to establish threat, makes their job easier, and its a much stronger way to play the class. Frontloading heals is almost as bad as DPS who pop cooldowns before the pull starts.

[SatrinaKali]

I feel like some of the criticism in this thread is not fair.

For example, mages that AOE all the pulls. Is that WoW's fault? Or S-E's?

That's their own fault for spam leveling in FATES and never learning their class imo. Every mage i've been with who leveled ONLY by FATEs, just spams AoE dmg and does horribly. This isn't 100% for all players, but the ones I have run with its true for.

[Tigerwong]

I feel like some of the criticism in this thread is not fair.

For example, mages that AOE all the pulls. Is that WoW's fault? Or S-E's? Yoshi stated that overabundance of AOE detracts from skillful gameplay. Yet, for a leveling thaum, AOE IS the most efficient thing to do, for groups as small as TWO! AOE should never be balanced this poorly. S-E takes the blame.

Also, be careful when you say tanking in WoW requires no skill. It's true Blizzard removed threat as a mechanic, and in leveling dungeons the tanks job is quite trivial. However, endgame tanking in WoW is incredibly demanding. Particularly in the recent Mists expansion, I can't think of any MMO in which tanking required more skill (I'm talking about high ranking HM teams not casual raiding).

That said, I certainly sympathize with everyone who has struggled with bad DPS. Even an over-eager healer can be problematic. My favorite conjurers have been the ones that spend their first few GCD's sleeping adds. It gives me time to establish threat, makes their job easier, and its a much stronger way to play the class. Frontloading heals is almost as bad as DPS who pop cooldowns before the pull starts.

You wanna know how credible these criticism are just ask them how they deal with Sinestra's orbs. Or how to be a goalkeeper in HM Twin Valkyrs.