Tanking Frustration: I blame WoW

[Cubester]

I sometimes wonder if some people bother reading their chat.
After explicitly telling them not to pull and to follow the kill order, they still go ahead and pull well before I'm even done marking.
I just give groups like that a fair warning once, and after that I just leave. No point in getting frustrated over it.

[Fornix]

I sometimes wonder if some people bother reading their chat.
After explicitly telling them not to pull and to follow the kill order, they still go ahead and pull well before I'm even done marking.
I just give groups like that a fair warning once, and after that I just leave. No point in getting frustrated over it.

Aye, people who don't read or use common sense are the most annoying. I usually just let them die, repeatedly if they keep on doing it. Eventually they'll leave. Personally I can't be bothered with restarting a run, so let the leaving be up to them .

It's a shame truly that there's no kick functionality yet for dungeon runs, would save some time.

[Soylent]

9/10 DPS are TERRIBLE and don't even know there's a threat meter built into the games party frame. I've NEVER seen a DPS slow down on DPS when they're close to getting agro, they just go ahead and take it and then blame the tank (often attacking monsters out of order). I'm just so fed up with the bad dps now.

If any of you play on Faerie and are not one of the above please PM me in game so I can start building up a friends list of decent DPS.

[Duelle]

However tanking in this game is hard because of how (My assumption) Warcraft evolved tanking to be so faceroll.

Never make this assumption. It might be safer to assume the people who are pulling are being reckless and stupid, because the first thing WoW will teach you is to efficiently label kill targets and follow kill order to actually make it through pulls. Most of the fast gameplay tanking I've learned was while playing WoW (before it was Aggression-spam and pseudo DPS in Lineage II as a Shillien Knight and FFXI's version of PLD which played slow as molasses). What you are suffering from is a case of bad players. We all get them, some more often than others. Hell, I still remember that Titan run where the heals and DPS couldn't figure out to move out of his frontal line attack that pushes you off the platform.

DPS classes I play with automatically start going buckwild on mobs I just pulled (Namely Bards and BLM) before I can even get a Savage Blade or Flash on them.

You have to open with Flash, and better if you run ahead to get some aggro during the pull (it's a shame we don't have an ability like Charge that let's us rush to the enemy; then your opener would be Charge => Flash to start things off). Assuming you labeled your targets, focus on 1 but tab and finish combos on secondary and tertiary targets as needed. Usually alternating Flash in between steps of the Fast => Savage Blade combos helps a lot. Combo'd Rage of Halone pretty much becomes your tool to solidify aggro and (most importantly) recover it if someone is stupid and attacks a mob they're not supposed to.

[Blowfeld]

Yep,

everytime I see people ae bombing the hell out of a mobgroup I only twinked at I always say to myself: Here come the WOW guys

Only thing I like more is when they then run away from the mobs they aggroed (and me, because: why run to the tank when having mobs up your ass) and run into other mob groups, pulling half instances only to die horribly and say: This tank sucks, he never saves me!!!

[Furio]

Hmm, I haven't experienced this and I've done all dungeons up to level 41 quite a few times.

Maybe it's an "end-game" issue.

[Niyuka]

Its the combination of previous MMOs making tanking easier, and FATE babies who dont know even the least about the game swamping the DF. When I tank, I dont use the DF, and I encourage you to do the same. Its super easy to find people in chat, just stay outside of typical FATE zerg areas, and if these people misbehave, kick them again.

[Furio]

Its the combination of previous MMOs making tanking easier, and FATE babies who dont know even the least about the game swamping the DF. When I tank, I dont use the DF, and I encourage you to do the same. Its super easy to find people in chat, just stay outside of typical FATE zerg areas, and if these people misbehave, kick them again.

As a DK tank in hardcore content in WoW, I'm curious to know what exactly you find more difficult about tanking in ARR. For me, it's practically the same - albeit a bit slower.

[Xariann]

As a DK tank in hardcore content in WoW, I'm curious to know what exactly you find more difficult about tanking in ARR. For me, it's practically the same - albeit a bit slower.

Possibly the fact that tanks got a huge threat boost somewhere during Cataclysm that made mobs stick to them if they sneezed.

[Solragor]

Never make this assumption. It might be safer to assume the people who are pulling are being reckless and stupid, because the first thing WoW will teach you is to efficiently label kill targets and follow kill order to actually make it through pulls.

You haven't played WoW in a LONG LONG time, have you.