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  1. #1
    Player
    EmiliM's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    Location
    ウルダハ
    投稿
    174
    Character
    Emilia Marseilles
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    格闘士 Lv 50

    Add a "First Time Player Accepted" Option to the Duty Finder

    Just an idea. Add a "First Time Player Accepted" checkbox in the duty finder so that people doing IDs for the first time and do not wish to skip cutscenes or do speedruns can be grouped with others like them (or any other players who have this box checked, indicating they accept playing with someone who may be experiencing the ID for the first time and may want to run the dungeon normally and watch the cutscenes). Of course, this will have the added incentive of bonus exp or rewards if the matched group actually contains first timers.

    It's basically an opt-in/opt-out solution to the speedrun issue that people are having for AK and other end-game dungeons. Yes, it segregates the community (well, within DF anyway), but the fact is that both speedrunners and first-timers have valid points and the current situation basically requires one side to give in to the other, and we all know that will never happen. I'd personally prefer a longer queue knowing I won't be forced to play a certain way or get into an argument with strangers.

    What do people think about this?
    (7)
    2013/09/10 06:09; EmiliM が最後に編集

  2. #2
    Player
    minihalcyon's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/13
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    57
    Character
    Aleph Aster
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 50
    The irony is the idea that speedrunners would accept a longer queue to avoid waiting for cutscenes... ._.
    (37)

  3. #3
    Player
    oda's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/22
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    74
    Character
    Oda Stillwind
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    侍 Lv 70
    I think this is a good idea, but believe the option should be "speed run" since the default and intended way of running the dungeon is to kill trash and/or watch cut scenes.
    (10)

  4. #4
    Player
    Gamebouncer's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/06/25
    投稿
    1
    Character
    Lord Tarwin
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 18
    I think that's a great idea!
    As well, it can help people realize that if someone is new they may not have a full understanding of the mechanics and there is a reason the Tank is moving slowly ahead looking around every corner

    Last night was my first group, first dungeon. I mentioned right away that this is my first time and I was the tank, wanted to be honest. No one replied (PS3 players?)

    We got through the dungeon just fine everyone doing there thing properly and I said "great job everyone". Still no reply lol .. it was weird
    (3)

  5. #5
    Player
    Eclipsed's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/28
    投稿
    151
    Character
    Ezariel Bayne
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    採掘師 Lv 72
    no, just no. I prefer speed runs myself but am intelligent enough to realize how badly this would be abused.
    (3)

  6. #6
    Player
    Seraphi's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/22
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    86
    Character
    Ava Inferi
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 61
    Quote 引用元:minihalcyon 投稿を閲覧
    The irony is the idea that speedrunners would accept a longer queue to avoid waiting for cutscenes... ._.
    It just goes to show it's an entitlement thing.
    (7)

  7. #7
    Player
    Lissyl's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    88
    Character
    Elsabette Manaya
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    調理師 Lv 36
    While it seems like your heart is in the right place imo, I don't think you should put a bonus on it. The moment you do, the speedrunners will go checking the box anyway just to get the bonus (and will talk about the 'penalty' of not checking the box if questioned). Seen it happen too many times before.

    I think most of us who are fine with the first-timers are the kinds of people who don't need a bonus to select it in the first place. But the idea itself, yah, I like that. =)
    (2)
    "Once the landslide has begun, it is too late for the pebbles to vote."

  8. #8
    Player
    Aicasia's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    148
    Character
    Aicasia Corazon
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    格闘士 Lv 50
    I already wait 45 minutes for a Keep run, the last thing I need is options to make it longer.
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player
    Yshnal's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/10
    Location
    Ul'dah
    投稿
    711
    Character
    Nera Mistdancer
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    ナイト Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:minihalcyon 投稿を閲覧
    The irony is the idea that speedrunners would accept a longer queue to avoid waiting for cutscenes... ._.
    Yeah, they wouldn't use that system in the end anyway, and would keep trying to force their "skip it all" mentality on everyone else. They're self-centered and selfish, so I don't expect any other outcome besides that one.

    Note: I'm talking about the ones that act like jerks, not the patient ones that understand how the duty finder works and respect the rest of the playerbase.
    (8)

  10. #10
    Player
    Orophin's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    3,446
    Character
    Orophin Calmcacil
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    This is basically the same problem as not making an option to form duty finder groups within your own server - the queue times will easily take twice as long.
    (1)

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