Is bard dps the weakest?

[savant07]

To everyone posting and reading this, sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions and all, I'm not trolling, it's just that from the numbers perspective I cannot see them doing that much.

Like for example, I know they do good damage while on the move but so do summoners and their pets continue to attack while they are moving and DoTs continue to tick and they do ALOT of damage due to their higher weapon damage (50% stronger attacks on all attacks) Their pets doing maybe 150-200? Bloodletter only seems to be doing 200 same with heavy shot etc.

Black mages hit for a lot and they hit often enough that their damage does add up but granted movement on encounters does suck. But they still hit like trucks. One Fire or Fire III is about 3 heavy shots worth of damage.

Also, where are all the data/xperience of people saying bards are top DPS right now? Cause in the other threads and according to some streamers doing coil of bahamut turn 1-5 say summoners own the DPS race.

[Amb]

You posted ur post and got feedbacks, but you don't believe it. Why post?
If you really don't like ur BRD that much, re-roll

[Heroe]

Well it's not that I'm crazy or anything, it's just that I see so many posts about other classes, specially summoners, that they are doing INSANE damage compared to other classes but I see none about bards which makes me wonder if bards are simply the lowest DPS class and no one wants to speak about them.

your playing your class wrong.

After having tanked my fair share of AKs while running parser, if the bard is decently geared hes #1 on dps unless he just flat out doesnt know his rotations.

Having played my bard currently level 45, im out damaging everyone im running lower level dungeons with.

[Moesugi]

Realistically, Bard will always be top DPS because of how fights/enemy AoEs are currently implemented and the problems other classes suffer. The simple ability to attack while on the move will always put Bard one step ahead of the rest unless enemy AoEs and adds are radically changed.

I must agree to this, as someone who used to play WoW, the mechanic in FF14 is normal, some are even easy to me. Almost all of them are "avoid that red line/avoid the direction of that boss", which, as long as you didn't lag, you should have no problem.

If SE ever wanted to increase the difficulty in those fight, they should make the boss do targeted debuff(The doom in Temple of Qarn for eg, that's a good example, but poorly designed) instead of spamming AoE skill.

Then again... we still have console to worry about. I'd love to see how SE work their way around this problem, as increasing difficulty might make it imposible for console.

[savant07]

your playing your class wrong.

After having tanked my fair share of AKs while running parser, if the bard is decently geared hes #1 on dps unless he just flat out doesnt know his rotations.

Having played my bard currently level 45, im out damaging everyone im running lower level dungeons with.

Aren't parsers broken right now and shouldn't be trusted?

[Raistlin1982]

O.o bards =)

[Puck]

your playing your class wrong.

After having tanked my fair share of AKs while running parser, if the bard is decently geared hes #1 on dps unless he just flat out doesnt know his rotations.

Having played my bard currently level 45, im out damaging everyone im running lower level dungeons with.

What parser are you using?

[Lecreuset]

You're talking as if all the fights are just plain tank and spank. And even if that were the case I'm still confident how good Bard dps is.. I wish bard had more support abilities than just the songs and the -10% damage dealt debuff. AoE dps though expensive(though you have invigorate from lancer cross) on the TP is pretty amazing. Those Plumes in Garuda hard mode don't stand a chance

If you still have any complains then just play those other classes that you think are so good. Problem solved

[Shunye]

I can't believe all of you guys taking this guy as if he is serious after 8 pages of playing the devil's advocate. anyone who has stuck with the class to 50 knows that bard is a good damage dealer, and even if we weren't we still have songs and the ability to apply enemy spell casting speed slow and enemy damage reduction. stop playing into this troll's hands.

[Nhix]

If it were not for bards, many of the more enduring fights would have MP/TP users quaffing potions. This poses three unique problems...

1: Waiting for cooldown timer on potions
2: Lost revenue (having to resupply potions)
3: Lost DPS (not just from Summoners and Black Mages either, don't count out the tank-type classes)

We bards are DPS batteries... we work damage through the other classes as well, hence, "support class" on description.

Funny, this was a test ran not but two days ago; avoid people complaining about "...you weren't in range of me to hear your song!" and, "...you're supposed to support the whole party!". 2 bards, 1 stone...

POSITIONING IS KEY (can't say it enough) (continued next page...)

Bard-A can stay closer to the fight and run Foe Requiem, switching to Army's Paeon when TP users need the boost. Bard-B positions halfway between the Bard-A and MP users. Because songs drain MP, Bard-A supporting TP users/DPS with FR and AP can leech MP regen from Bard-B; MP user support.