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    savant07's Avatar
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Hmm I got level 50 summoners in coil claiming 230 DPS on their parses. Don't know how accurate that is...
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    Hmm I got level 50 summoners in coil claiming 230 DPS on their parses. Don't know how accurate that is...
    Well, the numbers I posted for SMN earlier are 203 dps, assuming a nearly perfect rotation; a mix of darklight, ilvl 55, and ilvl 60; and no buffs. If I assume that the people in Coil are having their rotations screwed with by mechanics; have full darklight (or better); and use buffs, then yes, I can easily see 230 dps or higher. Especially since the numbers posted earlier are all single-target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Well, the numbers I posted for SMN earlier are 203 dps, assuming a nearly perfect rotation; a mix of darklight, ilvl 55, and ilvl 60; and no buffs. If I assume that the people in Coil are having their rotations screwed with by mechanics; have full darklight (or better); and use buffs, then yes, I can easily see 230 dps or higher. Especially since the numbers posted earlier are all single-target.
    I'm assuming a bard can do roughly the same DPS on a single target?
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    Illythia Loves
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    smn won't lose, but not every smn is great at the job. I'd be interested to see if bard reaches 400dps about in AK on every boss which is where I've hit as a general high. All the bards I've had so far are being outpaced easily and have half the dmg despite full DL. I'm sure 200ish is about right for a long fight where you you will have to stop using fester or spend time dodging or where there are harder mobs and certain buffs aren't up when you need them.
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    Claudus Stormguard
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    Lancer Lv 50
    IMO i think all dps class are fairly balanced, just depends on who know how to play them and how to do maximize their damage from the rotations and who doenst
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    Silvyaniss Lydileera
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    As a Bard if I don't pull back some on DPS I aggro I have to becareful always close to Number 1 but almost always Number 2 ....sucks when I pick up aggro when sometimes the tank does something else I have to becareful.

    Reason being we pull all our attribute points into DEX therefore raising attack POWER.
    ALso Bard gear is very high in DEX to include all Jewelry and Weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvyaniss View Post
    As a Bard if I don't pull back some on DPS I aggro I have to becareful always close to Number 1 but almost always Number 2 ....sucks when I pick up aggro when sometimes the tank does something else I have to becareful.

    Reason being we pull all our attribute points into DEX therefore raising attack POWER.
    ALso Bard gear is very high in DEX to include all Jewelry and Weapons.
    Isn't that the same for other classes? They get high primary stats on their armor?
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Here are my observations about bard vs other dps:

    Dragoon - They seem to have comparable (probably better/more consistent) single target when they can get behind the target and stick to it, otherwise are much weaker.

    Monk - I suspect they're similar to lancers, but I've only been in 1 party with a monk, so no comment.

    Black Mage - The numbers I see black mages pull out are insane. Also, AoE wise, no contest. They blow bards out of the water, plus regen mp instantly with blizzard, while bards have to watch TP in extended AoEs. As a bard, the absolute best thing you can do is sing Requiem + Voice, 20% bonus to your BLMs is just insane. BLMs are our best friends.

    Summoner - This is tricky. I'm going to say comparable, with the caveat that they don't seem to have very good burst dps, while bard with Barrage and any other cooldown up is insane bursty.
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    Leera Myr
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    having a high crit and having an attack off the GCD that can be reset from crits off dots you put is insanely good..
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    I'm pretty sure everyone has high crit (though we have about 10% more from straight shot buff) but crit only gives 50% bonus damage so it isn't that great.

    I feel like bard damage is honestly lacking even after all the math is done. Heck even the summoner pets hit harder with their normal attacks than our normal attack (170+ damage compared to 120)
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