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    kangataz's Avatar
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    Kang Ataz
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 44
    I really like the idea of giving us cure II or cure III, if they're gonna take damage away at least give us another feasible action. Cuz I feel like the higher my level now, the more cure starts to feel useless.
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    Arthidian Dracul
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 33
    I don't find it to be an issue since we are tanks and not dps like others have mention. To all those wow players, even in wow we didn't do much dmg as tanks when it comes to solo fight and we only do good dmg when we have 5+ mobs on us. I started out as Pugilist before I switch over to gld since there were so many bad tanks, and the difference in dmg isn't that bad but I went with 2:1 str:dex rather than vit like most so I tend to do more dmg I guess.
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    Barrett Lionheart
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    Typhon
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    When it's just myself and the healer left during boss fights, I'm not thinking about how much damage I'm doing.

    There have been so many times where I've timed CDs to survive for an insane amount of time.

    Damage < Mitigation
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    Ruminate's Avatar
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    Demi Fiend
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    Diabolos
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    Armorer Lv 50
    PLD DPS while in Sword Oath is actually quite high. +50 Combat Potency every ~2.5s is the equivelent of 20-40% more damage per skill activation.... similar to the increase in damage per skill activation that WARs get with Maim and Storm's Eye.
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    Coraline Valentine
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruminate View Post
    PLD DPS while in Sword Oath is actually quite high. +50 Combat Potency every ~2.5s is the equivelent of 20-40% more damage per skill activation.... similar to the increase in damage per skill activation that WARs get with Maim and Storm's Eye.
    Its just on auto-attacks, it doesn't affect skills compared to having neither oath up.
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    Ruminate's Avatar
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    Demi Fiend
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    Diabolos
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by 7-car-pileup View Post
    Its just on auto-attacks, it doesn't affect skills compared to having neither oath up.
    Sword Oath gives you an additional attack with 50 combat potency everytime you auto-attack.
    Relic weapon's attack speed is slightly less than 2.5s.
    GCD is 2.5s.
    Think about it.

    Lets say you use a 150 combat potency skill. If you add an additional 50 combat potency around the same time frame, what percentage did your DPS increase by?
    Lets say you use a 200 combat potency skill. If you add an additional 50 combat potency around the same time frame, what percentage did your DPS increase by?
    Lets say you use a 250 combat potency skill. If you add an additional 50 combat potency around the same time frame, what percentage did your DPS increase by?
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Don't forget about Fight or Flight.

    Increases physical damage dealt by 30% for a whopping 30 seconds traited.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 09-11-2013 at 10:39 PM.

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    Roy Hildenbrand
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I don't understand why people keep bringing up damage mitigation. Yes we are tanks and our class is very good at tanking, but sometimes you play with maybe a few friends and don't need to spam massive hate combos like you would in a larger group. Since we have lost the ability to feasibly keep ourselves healed it would be nice to bring our damage up a tad bit. There are plenty of other games where the tanks have less dps than DD's which is to be expected, but at least do their own share of damage.

    Solo PLD gets a burst of damage from fight or flight and possibly sword oath if you auto attack a lot. That's it, since our str and weapons are pretty weak unless you purposely stat for solo play going str/dex. But that's not really feasible when you also run group events. But like one individual said, maybe if we got spirits within and circle of scorn earlier it wouldn't be as bad.

    So for the idiots that have very low reading comprehension. DON'T WANT TO BE HIGHEST DPS, BUT DON'T WANT TO BE THE WORST BY A LONG SHOT. Say that to yourself in the best retard voice possible which for some of you will be your regular voice.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I'm PLD 50 too...and good thing you're a Maraudeur yourself

    Here's the english description of Sword Oath :
    "Increases the potency of auto-attacks by 50.
    Cannot be used with Shield Oath.
    Effect ends upon reuse."

    So unless the translation from japanese was done horribly wrong, I don't see where your explanation comes from.
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    Player
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    Demi Fiend
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I'm PLD 50 too...and good thing you're a Maraudeur yourself

    Here's the english description of Sword Oath :
    "Increases the potency of auto-attacks by 50.
    Cannot be used with Shield Oath.
    Effect ends upon reuse."

    So unless the translation from japanese was done horribly wrong, I don't see where your explanation comes from.
    Ouch, you shouldn't have said you have a 50 PLD. Because if you actually had one and used Sword Oath, you'd have noticed two hits with each auto-attack swing. Shame on you for not noticing.
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