The stuns between war/pld

[7-car-pileup]

I kind of think War's need their stun brought in closer to that of the PLD. Perhaps on a low enough cooldown that for bosses that have those -must stun- skills, a war's skill will come off cooldown a seccond or two before the -must stun- is charging.

Two reasons:

1. Most of this tanking board seems to be up in arms over how theres an inbalance between the two tanking classes and this comes up all the time. This would be a minor quality of life improvement for the wars.

2. I'm a touch sick of being the stun-bitch in high level content, its a combination of boring and stressful because a) I don't get to do anything besides stun and b) they're insta wipes, completely and utterly unforgiving. I hate not being able to tank unless there's two pld's in the party and I call dibs first.

Alternatively take the pld stun off the gcd and add 50-75% to its tp cost so you still have to be careful with it.

[hola]

war loves to be the stun bitch because we dont get to tank!.

[Devilair]

I kind of think War's need their stun brought in closer to that of the PLD. Perhaps on a low enough cooldown that for bosses that have those -must stun- skills, a war's skill will come off cooldown a seccond or two before the -must stun- is charging.

Two reasons:

1. Most of this tanking board seems to be up in arms over how theres an inbalance between the two tanking classes and this comes up all the time. This would be a minor quality of life improvement for the wars.

2. I'm a touch sick of being the stun-bitch in high level content, its a combination of boring and stressful because a) I don't get to do anything besides stun and b) they're insta wipes, completely and utterly unforgiving. I hate not being able to tank unless there's two pld's in the party and I call dibs first.

Alternatively take the pld stun off the gcd and add 50-75% to its tp cost so you still have to be careful with it.

/seconded. I hate stun duty. I play tank cuz i wanna tank, not cuz i stand close to the mob to autoattack and stun every once in a while.

[Wangstrong]

I don't think any class should have a stun without a cooldown! Who even thought that was a good idea? Instead of paladins having the ultimate überstun and warriors having a horrible one on a 30s cooldown, they should both get similar ones with like 15s cooldowns.

[7-car-pileup]

All for that, anything that gets me out of being pidgeon holed every time I'm in a party and there isn't another paladin to shift the suffering on to.

[Sephirah]

Just chiming in as a PLD here, I personally think the WAR interrupt is better than the one PLD gets.

Sure, we can spam it - but it's on GCD, which means unless you're anticipating the move it's EXTREMELY easy to miss, since mobs have a habit of starting a cast right after you use a skill. I would honestly prefer my pld stun have a longer cooldown and take it off GCD. But for balance purposes I can't really complain. I haven't done Ifrit myself yet, but if being the "stun bitch" means the difference between my party succeeding and failing, I'll gladly let a war have the fun of tanking the boss.

If the cooldown on war's stun was lowered it would invalidate the current functionality of pld's stun.

Hypothetically speaking, if war's cooldown was lowered and it retained being off GCD, I think that would cement their role of being "stun bitch". In that scenario, if a raid is deciding whether to stick a war or pld on stun duty, I think the choice between a "war still able to do full dmg with a low cooldown stun off gcd" and, "make the pld do nothing but white dmg the whole fight so they dont miss it", is pretty obvious. And I don’t think warriors want that. At the moment they are both useful in different situations.

Honestly, if you’re playing tank and complaining about being responsible for following unforgiving mechanics, regardless of how boring it is sometimes; I think you should pick something else.

[Kiteless]

The problem with the WAR stun is that it takes 20 minutes to come out after you've activated it. The 30 second cooldown doesn't help either.

[Ruminate]

J"war still able to do full dmg with a low cooldown stun off gcd"

Just because something is off the GCD doesn't mean you can use it anytime you want. If WAR stun was on a 3s cooldown, it would still be inferior to PLD stun. The current animation has to finish first, THEN you can use Brutal Swing. Then you have to wait until the animation for that to finish before stun lands.

If a WAR wants to stun Ifrit, they can't be using any other skills, just like the PLD. I've grouped with numerous WARs that attempt stunning him while using other skills and they completely fail at interrupting Ifrit. Of course, no one in the raid says anything and we still beat it.

[hola]

lower war's stun to 3sec duration and 20sec CD, we will all be happy.

[Kensai]

Change Skills because of ONE fight in the game? Or are there more fights where PLD have to stun only?
I did about 5 Ifrit HM runs and i like doing the Stun Job in that one fight.

Its a nice variety to Tank the boss like in 99% of the other fights