For all you warrior tanks out there... end game we are not viable.

[Tenryou]

Well i'm curious about Titan because i'm have full str points and was wondering if maybe i should switch to vit to get it done. i mostly off tank so im trying to decide if i can get by w/o changing it? Working on Bravura atm. and yet to get darklight so i sit about 5400. in dungeons

[HiirNoivl]

Well i'm curious about Titan because i'm have full str points and was wondering if maybe i should switch to vit to get it done. i mostly off tank so im trying to decide if i can get by w/o changing it? Working on Bravura atm. and yet to get darklight so i sit about 5400. in dungeons

5400 is way to little. You need at least 6500-7k to survive Auto Attack Rock Buster and Mountain buster.

[Tenryou]

5400 is way to little. You need at least 6500-7k to survive Auto Attack Rock Buster and Mountain buster.

Thanks guess i'll go switch to vit for it. kind of makes me sad but oh well whats can you do. life of a tank. have hp take many hits lol

[bwalker36]

So I'm a bit confused. I get the math that shows warriors need more healing, but don't they also have self heals that a paladin does not have? It seems like they are getting ignored in all this discussion unless of course I'm missing something, which is possible.

[Ahlen]

So I'm a bit confused. I get the math that shows warriors need more healing, but don't they also have self heals that a paladin does not have? It seems like they are getting ignored in all this discussion unless of course I'm missing something, which is possible.

When healers are already heal spamming you, your own self heals are more likely than not to just be lost as overhealing - making them pointless. Not to mention if you use Inner Beast you lose your +heal debuff. Imagine if whenever a PLD used a skill every 20s, they lost 10% of Shield Oath's reduction.

[Tenryou]

its based on warth stacks you need 5 in order to use inner beast. its part of the reason im currently favoring my war over paladin. Also 2nd Wind heals pretty nice on war i get about 400-600 most times. i try to balance Storm path 2nd wind and inner beast to take some of the load of the healer but i can be tough. I've yet to get to bahamuts coil and i have no intent to do it til i have full AF+1.

[Kitru]

I get the math that shows warriors need more healing, but don't they also have self heals that a paladin does not have? It seems like they are getting ignored in all this discussion unless of course I'm missing something, which is possible.

WARs don't get a shield to block with. WAR self heals are the effective equivalent of *that*, not the discrepancy in healing received.

[newby]

Soo what is the point ? I'm trying to 4 days still trying to found a group for HM titan but ppl just said prefer a paladin because have demage mitigation ... HM titan impossible with DF pugs ( Maybe a little ) Premade group demanding paladin for tank role. I said i can come for dps slot they said you cant make a dps like a Dragoon or Monk. Soo what i'm ? I'm not a tank like paladin and i'm not a dps like dragoon or monk...

SE thinking what about for this ? They do not thinking before desing this instance classes just wonder ?? If i have a option for tranfer class to another class do not stay 1 minute to warrior. If you thinking make a tank just go to the Paladin.

Note: I do not say Warrior is a bad tank I can handle everything in the game but people is thinking about this for warrior. just i say what I experience ...