Its happened :/ - resorted to new character for Gil.

[CianaIezuborn]

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Yeah that's definitely an option, I'm not sure what the rate of gain on GC seals is from fates compared to the rate of decay on equipment durability so I can't really say if it's viable or not though. I'm not at home right now but dark matter is what 1k seals per? So 13k seals for a full repair?

The questions on if this is viable would be based off of how long it takes running fates for you to get 13k seals and how much your gear decayed in the process of it. Take the time that it takes you to get 13k seals and then divide that by the percentage of condition remaining and that should be how long it takes to grind a repair off fates.

You should work in gil gained during fates also at a rate of 350 gil = 1k seals to get a proper picture of it.

So if it takes you an hour of fate grinding to get enough gil + seals for a full repair, and your equipment is now at 80% condition then:
60 minutes / .8 = 75 minutes of fate grinding to earn a full repair

If you're doing fates naked then you won't need to divide the condition and you can just take actual time spent, though if you have to grind fates naked to repair gear I'm not to optimistic about how I'm going to enjoy 50.

[Ryios]

Generally, I complete about 10 to 20 fates an hour using a well refined system of knowing what the good ones are and how often they pop and having all the maps explored. And at this level they generally yield 230 seals for a gold medal reward. Meaning I net between 2300 and 4600 GC seals. And that's just a low average, Sometimes I get lucky and get on behemoth (despite not being 50) and catch svara and all the good fates at the right times and do way better than that (double even). So at 2300 to 4600 seals that would be between 1.8 and 3.68 Gold Pieces per hour (and again that's a low estimate). So 4500 to 9200 gil an hour (low esitmate) if we could use seals to buy gold pieces on the numbers I previously stated.

And last night I ran fates for like 7 hours and was still over 80% on all my gear.

[Darken]

Game doesnt hand money to me by pressing "W", waaah its broke...

Try playing XI, getting money a few years ago was farming, crafting or... broke...

Farm what oh masterful one? Everything that is farmable sells for maybe 1-2gil. Crafting gives you items that vendor for maybe 20gil...The actual damage to your gear from gathering materials and crafting will cost more than what you could make.

Crafting and selling to other people does not generate gil to the server... You might gain gil that someone else earned while leveling, but that gil will dry up within 1 month once everyone is 50. I personally have 500k due to crafting, but what happens when no one has gil to buy my crafts? They can't earn more, and I sure as hell am not going to buy stuff I can farm.

The next patch needs to address the economy before it fails. And it will fail in its current state.

[Reinheart]

Bring back dark matter for gatherers, bring back request for repairs - problem solved.

[Ruprect]

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And last night I ran fates for like 7 hours and was still over 80% on all my gear.

No way you had 80% on your gear after 7 hours of farming fates lol. One DD pretty much breaks all of your gear that is why ppl do it naked or in very low level gear. My gear is <20% in an hour of farming fates

[ilJumperMT]

Or Solution B

Let us buy alagan pieces with GC Seals

50 seals = 1 bronze piece
250 seals = 1 silver piece
1250 seals = 1 gold piece

So If I fate grind all night and net 20,000 GC seals that would be 16 gold pieces worth 40,000 Gil and I'd probably repair twice for around 5k total at a net profit of 35,000 gil.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...se-GC-activity

[Jinzuki]

I'm 50 with ANC and my full repair check is over 5k too BUT, I still manage to make 10-50k profit evertime I log on. No, I don't buy gil. How I see it is, you are all simply too lazy to make gil. Use the goddamn AH and sell some stuff you get in dungeons or start up gathering.

oh my god this x 1billion.

in b4 someone cries that there isn't enough gil generated in the world but fails to realise the thousands upon thousands of players generating gil playing through the story mode.

[Evangela]

LOL!.


YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WORK FOR MY MONEY?!?! this is bullshit.


hahah crafting is actually useful. do it or be poor. either way the game isnt badly designed. youre just bad at playing it.

Hunter is a job too, hunting is hunters' work.

you can't tell all the hunters to become a carpenter like you.

[Bouteiller]

Oh? So your saying WOW had bad end game design too? Because unless your guild paid fees or you had a source of income other then just raid Loot gold ( gathering/crafting/Dailies) No way in hell did you have enough gold for your consumables/Gems enchants and repairs.


Stop bitching people go gather stuff sell it or craft stuff and sell it. Go do fates/Leves or something...........in general Stop being bad.

WoW, at least, had other options. Dailies, as much as I hated them, gave a ton of cash. Crafting was there too, and it wasn't the only viable option. Fates/leves don't bring in as much cash the 50s imagine they do. And like many have stated, if everyone is a self sufficient crafter then no one is buying. Bubble are fun to live in, but sometimes you have to come out and see whats going on.

[Kayo]

If leveling newbies have all the gil ... why dont you all sell to them? I sure as hell gave up crafting for now since its taking so long to do along with my combat class. I myself (at level 32ish) have a lot of gil to spare to buy weapon and armor upgrades and really having a hard time keeping up my carpentry ... and thats just for Bow upgrades.

I get that once everyone is on their 2nd and 3rd+ class that there will be much more gil leaving than coming in (if things stay as they are) but for now, with all the players questing ... there should be plenty in the economy to go around.