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  1. #81
    Player
    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    they need to add in daily quests or dungeon rewards

    As it is now FATES already give way too much, they're the best exp and they actually do drop gil, and they drop seals in overabundant amounts to the point that the mechanics for those individual things are useless. who does battle leves or GC leves at all?
    and they are also overdone to an extraordinary level where even the biggest ones like behemoth is just run in and press whatever buttons you want with no thought involved whatsoever

    The way things are now is pretty grim with money flowing out at like 3x the rate its coming in but pigeonholing the entire game into "let's run from blue circle to blue circle blindly spamming aoe's day in day out" makes into almost not even a game anymore
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  2. #82
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    Leonas's Avatar
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maza View Post
    Everyone chill! It will work out, the game is NEW : D
    Its fine, this is how stuff gets done. When more and more people start to voice out that whats current isn't working efficiently, then it brings more and more attention to the problems at hand. Some people just go a bit overboard with voicing it. ;p
    (0)
    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
    When Good and Evil,
    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

  3. #83
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    Ceol Ashwin
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Just because you are not making any money does not mean money has stopped being created.

    Believe it or not, gil is still being created by brand new characters and older characters who still haven't done quests. If you rush a job to 50 without doing any farming or crafting while teleporting everywhere, you will be broke, and it's not the economy's fault.

    Why the hell do you all need this to be spelled out? It's so freakin' simple. And don't say, "But making money from the auction house doesn't create gil!" Gil is being created by new characters who are spending their money at the auction house. Holy hell in a handbasket, I didn't think you all could whine any more, but I guess I was wrong. Here you are, complaining that you don't have any money when you've done absolutely nothing in order to make it.
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    Last edited by Ceol; 09-10-2013 at 05:44 AM.

  4. #84
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    F'whalon Yhisa
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 33
    Now correct me if I'm wrong but I think their main worry is when there are no longer anybody in storymode or very few that this will be when Gil will start drying up as the great amount of Gil being earned right is from the story mode which is why we see those at 50 talking about their Gil drying up.
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  5. #85
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    Ceol Ashwin
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Roaminggnome View Post
    Now correct me if I'm wrong but I think their main worry is when there are no longer anybody in storymode or very few that this will be when Gil will start drying up as the great amount of Gil being earned right is from the story mode which is why we see those at 50 talking about their Gil drying up.
    But we're nowhere near that point yet, and there actually are gil fountains in this game. It's just that no one wants to do any of the work involved, so they burn through teleports and repairs and then look at their gil and scream economic terms they've never learned the definition of.
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  6. #86
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    Leona Lockhart
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
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    Except that half the servers are locked and no new character's are being created.
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  7. #87
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    math101's Avatar
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    Ba Nach
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
    But we're nowhere near that point yet, and there actually are gil fountains in this game. It's just that no one wants to do any of the work involved, so they burn through teleports and repairs and then look at their gil and scream economic terms they've never learned the definition of.
    Playing should at least be self sustainable by doing the things you want, i.e. playing only battle classes. Everything else is economical suicide for SE. Catering to those 1% who will raise all required crafting professions to max [to not be in the net loss GIL area] won't keep the remaining 99% playing for to long. Either those 1% are happily paying 1000$ per month, or SE better starts making endgame GIL neutral for DoW/M.
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  8. #88
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    Ru Ruura
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    Midgardsormr
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    Armorer Lv 60
    "I enjoy my crafting classes so everyone else should like them as well. The game is fine"
    -The "works as intended" crew.
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  9. #89
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    Nystai Glacies
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    /Sigh... the main amount of money that a character can bring into the economy (in positive) is through crafting leves. These do not carry the same repair burden that battle leves have, though they do have some, but are still a total net-gain to the gil supply on the server.

    "But what about for someone that doesn't have a crafting class or doesn't want to do crafting leves?" GO OUT AND FARM mob drops!!! There's plenty of mob drops that are required for crafting that can't be gotten through DoL classes. And then you sell those drops to the crafters for gil, who craft for leve's for gil, and the cycle repeats. Gil is entering the economy after all quests have run dry through a rather subtle means and I believe it's a great way to handle it.
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  10. #90
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    Meta Vahn
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 59
    I think people are pretty stupid to recommend crafting, if everyone crafts and trys to sell gear and no new money is being generated, then eventually the 5% tax combined with armor repairs will make EVERYONE broke anyways, try using your brains for once instead of being mindless sheep
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