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    Menubrea's Avatar
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    Edda Menubrea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeht View Post
    Don't wear your good gear then?

    If people are raiding as much as they say they are, a fraction of the time spent doing leves spiritingbonding gear will net them gil.

    Stop trying to brute force for gil. Use your brains people.

    Also:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy
    Spiritbonding does not generate gil, leves only generate gil if you're a crafter and can provide the materials yourself. It's a gil fountain, sure, but it's honestly an insignificant one, especially considering people are more inclined to sell the items on the market board for own personal gain rather than generating gil into the economy. Adventurers have no reasonable way to make money, your solution is to have us stroll around naked for a few hours, zerging FATEs. Doing so for a few hours by the way, would probably fund about the the same playtime in dungeons and anything beyond that would result in flat deflation in the economy.

    You don't realize how this is hurting crafters as much as it hurts everyone else. Cause once everyone is flat-ass broke, no one is going to be buying your shit, and you can't make a personal profit any more. Also the main point of a game is to have a good time, if dungeons is what I enjoy doing, then I should be able to sustain my own fucking repair costs doing so. No one is asking to be rich. Just to pay our repair bills, and not have a horribly fucked up economy in the process, which is bound to happen with no significant gil fountains to counteract the massive gil sinks.
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    Cycloptichorn's Avatar
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    The Cyclops
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    Gladiator Lv 44
    Quote Originally Posted by Menubrea View Post
    Spiritbonding does not generate gil, leves only generate gil if you're a crafter and can provide the materials yourself. It's a gil fountain, sure, but it's honestly an insignificant one, especially considering people are more inclined to sell the items on the market board for own personal gain rather than generating gil into the economy.
    Ridiculous. HQ repeatable leves not only give you triple money, they give you triple XP. Crafters use these to level their classes up - a lot. It's like legalized, power-leveling crack for crafters, starting in the middle range of their leves. That's a lot of new money being injected by the crafters into the economy, and yaknow what I'm going to do when I've topped out my original crafts? Get started on other crafts and do exactly the same thing. I need the XP WAY more than I need the money and will end up doing hundreds of these leves.

    Adventurers have no reasonable way to make money, your solution is to have us stroll around naked for a few hours, zerging FATEs. Doing so for a few hours by the way, would probably fund about the the same playtime in dungeons and anything beyond that would result in flat deflation in the economy.
    Go hunt some monsters, to get me the drops, which are materials I need to level my crafts up. If you put a bit of time into researching what's on the AH and how much it's selling for and how fast it's selling, you can make quite a bit of money. Don't worry about the 5% fees taking money out of the economy - I'll put it all back in for ya.
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    Thunderz Canadia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeht View Post
    Don't wear your good gear then?

    If people are raiding as much as they say they are, a fraction of the time spent doing leves spiritingbonding gear will net them gil.

    Stop trying to brute force for gil. Use your brains people.

    Also:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy
    indeed Materia is your next best bet since your fighting all the time

    I hate crafting, never ever wanted to do it

    but honestly it is 110% easier to spend 1~2hr here and there crafting/harvesting and throwing stuff on the wards then grind dungeons for gil

    a little time spent level'ing a craft goes a long way (slowly but surely working on some dat ADHD ._. lala)

    Crying over it will not solve it
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    Foregone Conclusion
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    The easiest solution is to reward players for dungeon boss downing by a 1000-1200 gil reward per boss and a 50-80 gil reward per human mob.
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    Ryujin Tsubaki
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    i personally hate crafting, i think its boring as shit. im not hurting for gil YET, but i will roll new guy on my server when its open, just for the gil.
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    Jeht's Avatar
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    Sir Jeht
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    Gladiator Lv 48
    At 40 I see my leves (leveling ones) give me 500g per. 4 leves takes me 20 mins. In an hour I can get 6k worth. I didn't say naked. You can use some easily crafted lower level gear to generate a little extra vendor trash or something to sell on the AH.

    Also worth mentioning is how everyone has around 100k+ after getting 50. I hear 5k per day thrown out a lot for repairs. That gives you 20 days before you hit rock bottom just doing dungeons. And it hasn't been 20 days yet.

    Seems to me people are blowing more money than they have coming in and want more than just their repair costs coming in. You want extra, you gotta do extra. It's your mentality and peoples like you that are dumbing down the MMO genre in general. I like a little complexity and a little personal responsbility because it's things like that differintiate players.
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    Yoohree Reborn
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    Zalera
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    guild hest give you like 2k in 5 min....

    thats low level....
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    Ahlen Cross
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver View Post
    guild hest give you like 2k in 5 min....

    thats low level....
    You can only get that large bonus one time. After that guildhests are literally not worth running EVER AGAIN.
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    It's not 5k a day. It's 5k an hour.

    If 5k were my daily repairs that'd be cheap as heck. Most peoples daily repairs are 20k+
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    Last edited by Cynric; 09-10-2013 at 09:10 AM.

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    King Arthur
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 43
    I really don't like that they pretty much force someone into crafting, gathering, etc. In FFXI I never played a single gathering or crafting class, how did I earn money? having fun on my jobs doing game content, hunting rare monsters, doing fun fights that could potentially drop VERY profitable rare items. And these repair bills are pretty out of control. Like someone once said, I'd much rather prefer exp loss than have this feature the way it is now.
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