The "Greed" Mentality

[Bouteiller]

The OP is just selfish. He tries to hide it, but really he just hates losing on gear he wants. He wants system where, if he wants it, he wins it. He uses odd justifications for it. "Well you're just gearing a level 0 class." So? That might just be the next thing they level. You can have one character and all classes, so it's not outlandish that they are just playing for the future when they want to play that class.

I'm happy to know that nothing will change in the current loot system. I find it to be very adequate and useful. People like the OP can cry all they want over loot that in no way "should" have gone to them.

[Jahaudant]

Like I said, it's about courtesy. People aren't adjusting their way of thinking from previous games where you can hit "greed" all day.

In nearly every MMO "Greed" is another form of "Pass".

In FFXIV "Pass" is pass.

@Usotsuki if you are levelling that class or genuinely intend to do so soon then fine. If you rolled to throw it away then there is no hope for you.

[Thotor]

OP vs the World.

8 Pages of non-senses.

[Usotsuki]

@Usotsuki if you are levelling that class or genuinely intend to do so soon then fine. If you rolled to throw it away then there is no hope for you.

Why would anyone do that ? I know, internet right but still... i think most people intend to level their classes.

[jmdatcs]

So you're running on class A and want to roll on gear for class B that you are also leveling.

Why should anyone care?

Did your class B make a contribution to the fight?

That gear is a reward for beating that fight. I don't care what other classes you have, you didn't bring them, so you don't get to roll need.

Ask 10 people to rank the reasons for rolling greed and you'll get 10 different answers. There is no good way to have a tiered greed system, making them all equal is the best solution. Your greed is not more important than anyone else's.

You are the reason many other games have countless threads on their forums about ninja looting. You are the exact reason this gear roll system was implemented.

I am glad se came up with a system that prevents jerks from rolling need on gear that isn't for the class they are on.

[Riko_113]

K. Think about this OP.

There's 4 of YOU in the team. You all greed on an item that is not for your current class. Which one gets the loot?

You're not the only one who wants the gear for something other than the current class you're on. You assume people are just trading for seals but you have no way to know... You know what? Even if they TELL you, who cares?? They won the GREED roll.

You are trying to circumvent the queue line by playing a tank while gearing up your other classes. Well guess what, the people clicking greed are DPS and Healers. After lvl 30 all 3 of them likely had to wait an hour to get in...so I say Greed the F away if they want. (I generally pass because my crafting/gathering keeps my inventory too full as is)

[Ravinous]

OP this has been the way it has been since loot systems were put in place.

If you want to be able to get gear for another class/job speak up before hand when you get into a duty finder group, and say "Hey guys if you don't mind if any drops for "X" class do drop do you mind if I take it? I'm also leveling that class I am at xx level, and would like to get some gear for it". This community in this MMO is not like the community in other MMO's. I have yet to run into an instance where if I needed something, or talked in party chat that the other random people in the duty finder didn't respond. If they question whether or not you are actually leveling another class, and I do mean IF they can always examine you. In that window they can actually look at what classes/jobs you are leveling. From there it's up to them on what they want to do.

[Garan]

greed
/grēd/
noun: intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth, power, or food.
synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity;

I'm thinking the button is named appropriately. I appreciate the system the way it is. If I really "NEED" something I can go as that class, or I can always take the time to go with my FC or people that wouldn't mind passing me stuff they know I need.

Is the system perfect for all situations? Obviously not. Is it a passable loot system? Absolutely.

[Kanzer]

If you want courtesy, run with your FC only. That was the solution to this kind of QQ in other MMOs, and always will be the solution.

That being said, I'm not going to ask every group I join if they're after a particular off set gear, I'm going to roll greed and move on. Most people share that same mentality.

[Itchyness]

Serious OP is serious. Need is need. Greed is greed. Pass is pass. QQ is QQ. That's how it is.