The "Greed" Mentality

[Jahaudant]

It's not a case of justification, it's a case of courtesy.

If you see an item drop that you will never use, why would you roll on it?

In WoW you are bound to one class per character. This ensures that whenever anyone presses the "greed" button it effectively means "I'll take this if no one else wants it". At this point they can do whatever the heck they want with that drop. Throw it away, vendor it for 1c, look at it in their item bag, whatever. There is zero chance of screwing someone out of an item they might use in this situation.

In FFXIV everyone can play every class so when you roll "greed" on an item for the sake of throwing it away, vendoring it for 1gil, or just looking at it in your bag, you should first consider that there may be people in your group that could genuinely benefit from receiving that item you don't even care about. If you have considered this and would still rather win said item then throw it on the ground then I don't quite know what to tell you.

[Pronsolo]

Conj - 40 runs a dungeon with a summoner -50
Awesome hat drops, conj needs, Summoner also needs even though his hat is 10x better - Summoner wins, says he has a lowbie arcanist that could use it and the conj gearing up is not his responsibility

I'm pretty sure this is what the OP is talking about, greed menatility........shocked so many of you can't see this

I understand what you are saying but OP is talking about greed rolls. Even the post is title "The Greed Mentality". Greed rolls are just that, Greed. You dont need it but you want it, and you have the same chance as anyone else rolling greed. If the RNG doesnt fall your way its not the other players fault.

[Jahaudant]

I understand what you are saying but OP is talking about greed rolls. Even the post is title "The Greed Mentality". Greed rolls are just that, Greed. You dont need it but you want it, and you have the same chance as anyone else rolling greed. If the RNG doesnt fall your way its not the other players fault.

It is effectively the same thing.

People rolling items "just because" works in MMO's where you are restricted to your single chosen class. Not so much in FFXIV.

I was hoping there would be a way to discourage this, or prevent it from happening completely without going back to Ye Old FFA /random with verbal looting agreements. But that seems impossible.

The "Greed" Mentality reflects the decision people make to roll on items to use as a door mat over the person next to him that would actually benefit from it.

[Usotsuki]

itt: A Legacy Player thinks, everything belongs to him because he is legacy.

[Wolfie]

itt: A Legacy Player thinks, everything belongs to him because he is legacy.

You take that back, I'm legacy and I'm very much self aware of all most some of my shortcomings.

[Tahldon]

itt: A Legacy Player thinks, everything belongs to him because he is legacy.

Way to generalize there, guy.

While I understand the OP's point, it has to be understood that some people will simply greed everything for the sheer sake of having it. This feeling is stronger for some people especially when they are in a random group of people they don't care about and will likely not see again. But, personally, I "Pass" on every item that isn't mage related as those are the classes I concentrate on the most. I hit "Greed" on Ifrit's Codex yesterday while playing on my WHM. I play SCH too, so I was glad to get it. OP has to understand that people are requested to play particular roles and so it's always good to have the option to still get the item you want if you're not playing that particular class. But, again, courtesy comes into play when this sort of things is going on. But remember too, you're playing with strangers.

[Usotsuki]

Way to generalize there, guy.

Never meant to be offensive to 90% of the other Legacy player but yes, i generalized just like he did. Just because i am not level 50 with all the other classes, doesn't mean i wont need the items later on, so greeding is legit.

[DawnNoMoreRises]

But Greed generally stands for "if no one else wants it, we'll roll on it for the vendor price".

for the sake of the fact "every one can be anything", if that player didn;t come on THAT specific class he wants items for, he has, as well as everyone else, the same right on that item. meaning, not so much (at least not prioritize him/her over another).

so in this case, a bit of a useless discussion imho...

[Oriachim]

What the hell dude? If you need the item then hit need.

[Wolfie]

What the hell dude? If you need the item then hit need.

He can't.

He wants to be able to roll need on off-class items and take it from other people because he thinks his use for the item is better than theirs.