182 min on duty finder and counting......

[Raiz_Cineris]

Try shouting for a group next time.

[Jynxii]

They need to increase dungeon exp to be up to par with fates

This is essentially the issue. You'll have your normal tanks/healer getting quicker queues because there are less of them (theoretically), however the biggest issue is that dungeons and guildhests for the most part are one trick ponies for your first time around. Even when people come through the lower to mid levels again with a 2nd or 3rd class, and should (theoretically) bolster the Duty Finder queue once more, they skip over it because it simply isn't as efficient as slamming your head against the keyboard for a few hours in FATE grinding.

[Sziadan]

I agree with this though, I'm trying to level up my THM and figured the fastest way to level on early levels would be doing the dungeons.
It probably would of been the fastest way if it weren't for the fact that it took me 45~ minutes to get a satasha group..

Saying "play as healer" isn't an option, I'm already a lvl 50 WHM, I trying to get some skills from THM right now.
Yeah I know, running with friends is one solution and that's probably what I'll be doing, but would be nice if I could use DF when my friends aren't online to help me.

[Warlyx]

u can use the DF when your friends arent online Oo? , as WHM u enjoyed the instant dungeons , now as DPS u are in the other side of the fence....waiting until a healer and tank are a avaliable , SE cant create tanks/healers from thin air

[Jynxii]

The problem isn't whether or not you can use the duty finder, or if you roll tank, healer or dps, it is that there are no incentives to run the dungeons or guildhests more than once, especially when FATEs are significantly faster in regards to experience.

Looking at queue times specifically, 45 minutes is probably pretty normal is most MMOs during the leveling phase as people start to max out characters, however FF14 isn't like most MMOs. You max out a class, and then you level a new class on the same character. Given that it is more efficient to grind FATEs, you are essentially having each player added to the DF pool once with their main class. Even if people decide to level their healer/tank classes, they're likely to skip dungeons/guildhests so although the roles are being 'created', they aren't being added to the DF pool.

Given that just about every dungeon is tied to a story mission, they need to address the issue sooner rather than later.

[Warlyx]

Looking at queue times specifically, 45 minutes is probably pretty normal is most MMOs during the leveling phase as people start to max out characters, however FF14 isn't like most MMOs. You max out a class, and then you level a new class on the same character. Given that it is more efficient to grind FATEs, you are essentially having each player added to the DF pool once with their main class. Even if people decide to level their healer/tank classes, they're likely to skip dungeons/guildhests so although the roles are being 'created', they aren't being added to the DF pool.

Given that just about every dungeon is tied to a story mission, they need to address the issue sooner rather than later.

u got a point , ppl usually do the low lvl dungeons for the missions and then keep leveling.....leveling subclasses is a fate spam

[Solshine]

Personally, I think players trying to do dungeon content first time should be give priority. When you read there are people doing theses events a lot of times, I really think there needs to be a que, so first timers to a dungeon/event are at the top of the line. Let the people that have done it a gillion times wait or do fates.

[La_Dava]

People raiding FATES are similar to people who use steroids to look better, but fail to improve their physical condition. They manage to be level 50 but lack the knowledge/strategy to manage parties and dungeons.

[Xaverus]

That's why everytime I get a story quest that requires a dungeon, I just facepalm. I know the wait times for DPS so I just wait, or I find myself a healer and que with them and it seems to cut the waiting time in half, I'll eventually be healing and tanking but for now as dps...I just kill random Sh** until it pops, the only thing that upsets me is I can't level my Chocobo AND be in the duty-finder at the same time, So much for two birds with one stone, I can only hit one =(

[necrosis]

The problem isn't whether or not you can use the duty finder, or if you roll tank, healer or dps, it is that there are no incentives to run the dungeons or guildhests more than once, especially when FATEs are significantly faster in regards to experience.

Also less damage to gear.

Or the damage to gear vs how much EXP you get is MUCH lower.