Time Limit In Dungeons

[Porie]

It's to keep instances clear... Can't have people in there all day. It wouldn't kill you to open YouTube and check the boss fight and explain it to others if needed.

[ChickensEvil]

It's to keep instances clear... Can't have people in there all day. It wouldn't kill you to open YouTube and check the boss fight and explain it to others if needed.

Yes, because it takes some of the fun out of it. This content is new, fresh, and should be able to be enjoyed. Personally, the only time I look up a strat is when we are just getting stuck on something (to make sure we aren't totally missing something) or if we are getting down to the timelimit.

The time limits are fine, if you are coming up to the timers, start skipping those side paths that may or may not have chests. Or better yet, stop wasting so much time between pulls. As long as people aren't dying, and the healer can keep up, there is little to no reason to have long waits between trash (course this is mostly on the tanks... but still)

[Solragor]

Exactly the above. You went in unprepared, wiped several times and didn't know anything about the bosses. The punishment for that is that you were not able to complete the instance. The only times I ran out of time were Brayflox at the endboss and Cutter's Cry at the endboss because we wiped to them multiple times, for reasons that mechanics were not entirely clear or people could not correctly handle them.
Prepare for the instance, get a good group together, and you won't even ever see the timer going down below 45 minutes.

Yes, because it takes some of the fun out of it. This content is new, fresh, and should be able to be enjoyed. Personally, the only time I look up a strat is when we are just getting stuck on something (to make sure we aren't totally missing something) or if we are getting down to the timelimit.

So you're saying that you DON'T want to prepare beforehand, waste the time of your group and still be rewarded? Yeah, no.

[ChickensEvil]

So you're saying that you DON'T want to prepare beforehand, waste the time of your group and still be rewarded? Yeah, no.

So, let me get this straight, the high end guilds that touch content first are bad then because they don't look up boss strats? Perfect logic you have right there. Until you get to the bonus/optional dungeons, non of the content is that hard, that failing a mechanic the first time you see it is a wipe... unless it is a painfully obvious mechanic like a red circle under your feet.... then yeah... don't be bad and get out of the red. The only dungeons that took more than 2 attempts (and most downing on the first) has been the optional dungeons like Sunken Temple. But the game teaches you ALL of the bosses different mechanics as you go through the dungeon (in reference to sunken temple), except for the stuff that you can fail once in-fight and survive it, just don't mess it up again.

I prefer to learn how to play a game, not be told how to play, thank you very much.

[Porie]

The entire way to 50 I played learning on the go, I learn quick from my mistakes and pay attention to obvious mechanics. Once I hit 50 it was 2am and I wanted to try Ifrit hard mode.... I didn't want to learn on the go for this one so I popped open YouTube because tank role is a big deal on this boss fight and don't want people raging lol.

I like learning on my own but if it's coming down to the wire on time.... I'll just minimize if I have to and learn(never had to do that) but if you must than you must.

[Orophin]

The time limit was actually raised by 30 minutes from beta. The time limit is in place to ensure that there are enough instances for other groups to run. Already is the case where there weren't enough instances in some cases this weekend for some of the higher level dungeons.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I think the timer is fine. 60 minutes before (1.0) was kinda punishing, especially since there was less responsiveness over all, a 3 minute Weakness, and no shortcuts to take you 1/3 of the way through the dungeon each time.

90 minutes is a LONG play session for me. Typically, will try to get up every 30-40 minutes to stretch, grab a cup of water, hug a cactus, or a punch a squirrel in the face. I also think it's kinda like, "Hey, this party, these tactics, this gear, isn't going to work," effect.

I realize the privilege of regrouping with the same folks doesn't exist in duty finder, much the way finding other folks on the server can.

[Crispytot]

I prefer to learn how to play a game, not be told how to play, thank you very much.

Exactly my point. If you want me to look on the youtubes and cheat my way to completing it , then how did the first couple players finish it? Are they psychic? I'm afraid not.

[Luluchan]

The time limit is to add a challenge. I don't know what fall rolling games you have been playing but challenge keeps the game interesting. You can go in completely blind knowing there is a time limit and complete it. No you may not always be able to pick your party members and yes there are some serious windows lickers out there but it can still be fun.
I think 90 mins for timers is overly generous. What could be done is like how they did Dynamis for FFXI. Get small time extensions after certain criteria has been met but make a challenge out of it. Then again people whined about FFXI being too hard and look what happened to it...

[ChickensEvil]

Where I do agree is a possible suspension or extension of the timer if you have to replace a party member. I had a dungeon (Hakke Manor I think it was) that we finished without having a healer. Healer dropped, for whatever reason (maybe DC?) before the first mini-boss, and we NEVER got a replacement. I was cc'ing the trash with sleep, me and an archer were nuking things down as fast as we could, while the tank pop'ed tons of potions... and died... a lot. But we made it through... honestly the bosses were easier to survive with no heals than the trash were. The only one we had major issue was the last boss, but we got through, and just in time too! (I think there was like 10 minutes left). If we stood around for a healer, we would have never found one, and ran out of time.