Retrying the same Leve Quest

[TheVedis]

SP, Items, Gil, marks, and faction points are the sacrifice.

you definately start to notice the faction point loss too

[Shai]

The leve re-using is okay. But the penalty (by which I mean the worth of faction leves in general) needs to be greater. At current there's not much deterrence from giving up the small wealth in return for insane SP.

Now this I agree with.

And LOL because I didn't know this was originally on the bug/exploit page. Haha. Self-solving riddle.

[Bebekurenai]

What's the problem anyways? Why would some see it as an offense?

[darkstarpoet1]

before long we will have a post complaining "blah blah this person played 5 straight hours and i can only play 2 so he shouldn't get but 2 hours of sp or else he will leave me behind"

"oh it's so unfair you shouldn't be able to grind mobs for hours straight and get sp. you should only get drops off them.....no wait then you would be richer and get craft levels up higher.....se should just sign you out once you get to my set limit of time i can play"

this is the point we are getting to now. no i am not pointing this at any one person. this is in general the tone that anything they cannot or do not want to do is some how against some tos morality clause they believe SHOULD be in game, but is not.

[Mack]

Of course its not an exploit its built into the game.

[TheVedis]

Of course its not an exploit its built into the game.

sometimes things built in are exploits

this isnt one of them


they are very obvious when they are though(like the faction one)

[darkstarpoet1]

sometimes things built in are exploits

this isnt one of them


they are very obvious when they are though(like the faction one)

yes, the faction one and the spam heal one both were, but they found them and fixed them quickly. they know about this one and haven't fixed it. there's a reason. thevids it right about why btw. it's because it's not.

[TheVedis]

yes, the faction one and the spam heal one both were, but they found them and fixed them quickly. they know about this one and haven't fixed it. there's a reason. thevids it right about why btw. it's because it's not.

in the case of this one, its cuz getting SP a bit fater, for an hour tops, every 36 hours...isnt really a benefit, and thats literaly what people are complaining about

i get 20k SP more per hour, for a single hour, every 36 hours(30k per hour grinding raptors compared to 50k for doing these leves)

[Mack]

sometimes things built in are exploits

this isnt one of them


they are very obvious when they are though(like the faction one)

Explain the faction one to me please I'm not familiar.

[TheVedis]

Explain the faction one to me please I'm not familiar.

Start the faction NM leve with a group
abandon it
retake it
and still be able to get the end reward token

this let you do it every 36 hours without spending more faction tokens to get the leve again

now THAT is an exploit even though it was built in at the time