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  1. #1
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    Monty's Avatar
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    Montsegur Octavarium
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic View Post
    Everybody is forgetting that the DF only worries about forming a party made of 25% tank(s), 25% healer(s) and 50% dps. It doesn't take into account job types when making the party. This doesn't matter for Hydra, but it'd be retarded for Chimera where you *NEED* 2 silencers and DF could easily hook you up with a party with 1 or no silencers.
    You actually don't need a single bard for this fight with a pld tank. We've done it several times without one, you can also do it with just one brd with proper positioning of the boss. There's more than one strategy for most bosses in this game, people just tend to go with what's out there on youtube and in guides.
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    Drakan's Avatar
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    Drake Fury
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    Sargatanas
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    I like the fact that some of the fights are not on DF. At endgame, you need to get into a Free Company and do stuff with them, you can't expect to be doing the very hard stuff on Duty Finder. The hardest thing that I consider doable on DF is Ifrit hard, once you get to stuff that is harder than that (and Dhorme Chimera is part of this), Duty Finder won't be of much help. Not only you will have endless queues, but you will be heading in a fight where you will potentially wipe 30+ times before getting it right, meaning that you most likely won't get it done with the first DF group, and once you get to the subsequent runs, the party you get with are completely different people, completely ignorant of all the progress you've made thus far.

    Duty Finder is a nice tool to level up and farm castrum meridianum, but guys, when you get to endgame instances, you will really want to be doing this with a static team. A team that will repeat the same instance for over 10 hours to get through a fight (i say that because that's how much time my FC has been spending on Titan hard and still haven't beaten him yet).

    The fact that some instances like Dhorme Chimera or Hydra force you to play with people on your server should help you finding a Free Company that will do stuff with you.
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    Last edited by Drakan; 09-09-2013 at 06:01 PM.

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    Raymeo's Avatar
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    Marledia Nadine
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakan View Post
    The hardest thing that I consider doable on DF is Ifrit hard, once you get to stuff that is harder than that (and Dhorme Chimera is part of this), Duty Finder won't be of much help.
    I beat Chimera as a PUG with my very first group on our third pull. I would most definitely not call it hard, much less comparable to Ifrit. The hardest part, and it was hard indeed on a JP server, was finding people who were actually interested in doing it. Word on the street is that Hydra is even easier than Chimera, but I can't attest to that myself simply because I keep wiping to the /shout boss. There is no good reason for why everything else in this quest, including later stages, can be done with Duty Finder while these two stages are completely overlooked.
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    Last edited by Raymeo; 09-09-2013 at 06:48 PM.

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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakan View Post
    The hardest thing that I consider doable on DF is Ifrit hard, once you get to stuff that is harder than that (and Dhorme Chimera is part of this), Duty Finder won't be of much help.
    I actually got a great group through DF for Garuda Hard, though I'll freely admit that it was very much luck of the draw. Took us 3-4 goes, but we got he down pretty quick. In all, I think I spent less time there than I did in Garuda Easy. . .
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    Ok, I will admit that it is possible to get good parties from DF, but when you do, ask the players in the party to see how many of them are aleready grouped together... I did some attempts at Garuda hard using DF, we had 5 out of 8 from the same server, who were doing it together for the 10th time.

    People need to get to know people from their servers. Yes you can find good parties in DF but you have a chance out of a thousand... I think it's sad to see how much people want to do everything by themselves... Get in a FC, get to know the people you run with, you will:

    A) Have more fun because you know the people you run with and;

    B) Won't have to reexplain everything every time you re-enter the instance after failure...
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    Pharzyr Catro
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakan View Post
    The fact that some instances like Dhorme Chimera or Hydra force you to play with people on your server should help you finding a Free Company that will do stuff with you.
    There's no reason not to have it on the DF. The only thing that should bar people doing it on the DF is difficulty. Right now Titan is only downed on the duty finder if you win the lucky lottery but based on not knowing who you're going to get it's a crackshoot to beat titan there. Most people can pug chimera and hydra fine. There's no reason it shouldn't be on there. DF groups can do garuda 75% of the time nowadays and Garuda is more difficult than chimera and hydra combined.
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    Mocha Leporina
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    Balmung
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    The more that takes place in the open world, the better. I would even run dungeons open world if it were possible.
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    Marledia Nadine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The more that takes place in the open world, the better. I would even run dungeons open world if it were possible.
    These fights are not open world though. They both take place in a private instance. Besides, open world fights remove challenge from the equation by introducing zombie tactics and encouraging zerg fests. Just look at Odin. I'd prefer to have to show some personal skill for my rewards. I'd just like the opportunities to be more accessible.
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    Last edited by Raymeo; 09-09-2013 at 06:32 PM.

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    Jack Nightshroud
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I agree seeing as you can use DF (weather you finish or not) everything else besides hydra you should be able to DF this. It's not my first option but the FC I'm in has mostly lower level players so not enough people to help and standing around in Ceorthas trying to find people takes forever. I'd rather DF it and fail then not be able to try at all because I can't get a group.
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    This is not a solo game. Find a free company and do it with them.
    If you can't do that, how do you expect to run end game content ?
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