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  1. #21
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    AugustAPC's Avatar
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    Tranquillity Libra
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    Faerie
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Bump for justice.

    I desperately need this function.
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    Last edited by AugustAPC; 09-28-2013 at 03:35 PM.

  2. #22
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    Eruantien's Avatar
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    Eruantien Draugole
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Definitely be a nice feature
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  3. #23
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BomiKwon View Post
    From what I understand, this isn't possible because L2 and R2 are essentially one button; the L2 trigger inputs a positive z-axis value, while R2 inputs a negative z-axis value. So pushing both at the same time results in a cancellation (-100 + 100 = 0), which is the same as not pressing them at all.
    ah Yuri...
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  4. #24
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Nurse Joy
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Or why not just make LB / L1 bring up a 3rd cross bar set when in combat?? It's not like anyone would want to auto-run in the middle of a fight, and occasionally when I'm changing filters by using LB+Y or something I'll accidentally auto-run into a pit of spikes. Just make it so that instead of LB+[button] for a filter change you can customize it to be LB+D-pad. I think 4 more buttons with LB/L1 would be worth it
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    Last edited by xxalucard; 10-01-2013 at 12:35 AM.

  5. #25
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    I'ra Emberheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by BomiKwon View Post
    All I'm saying, is that I believe it to be highly unlikely that Square Enix would implement a feature in the game that is not natively available to all users. I play on the PC using a gamepad occasionally and am in full support of this feature. I'm simply noting my speculation on this feature being implemented in the near future.
    It is perfectly available natively on pc. Every single multi-platform game released on pc can use both triggers at the same time. If you actually care to look at the actual DirectX API, it has no restriction on shoulder buttons. That kind of restriction would be silly, and violates the very design standard Microsoft has dictated for 360/Windows.

    The only time the triggers don't work at the same time, is if you have really bad drivers for your gamepad, or a terribly designed gamepad by a sub-par manufacturer. Even the 3rd party drivers for my PS3 controller can use both triggers at the same time without problems.
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  6. #26
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    Pied Piper
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    If they can't/won't add another bar, i would be fine if there was a normal hotbar I could set on one side and assign skills too that would just let me see them. Could place long cool downs/situational skills here, see them light up, R1 swap, use, go back. Ex: Mercy Stroke. I keep it on bar 2 while tanking, but it would be nice if I had a visual indicator when it was ready without having to bar swap.


    The more you play, the less this matters.

    Want to buy focustarget on ps3 though :<
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  7. #27
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by BomiKwon View Post
    As I'll keep saying, this is a PC-related problem because default controller drivers, DirectInput specifically, treat Triggers as a Single Axis. I am fully aware that when using XInput, or the PlayStation 3 equivalent of such drivers, triggers are able to be used independently. A fix to one platform does not fix the other.
    Direct input? People still use that? I dont think any new games out officially support direct input anymore. Most just support xinput directly if they allow controllers at all. Besides, Direct input triggers arent even sliders. They're buttons too. Only xinput is sliders for triggers (and ps3 controllers obviously).
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  8. #28
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    Syndal Striker
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 60

    An easy solution

    You guys just need to use macros. For example I am a dragoon. One of my main combos is:

    Impulse Drive > Disembowel > Chaos Thrust

    Instead of having the abilities on my bar taking up 3 spaces, I just made a macro:

    /ac "Impulse Drive" <t>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Disembowel" <t>
    /wait 3
    /ac "Chaos Thrust" <t>
    And added that macro to crossbar. Now I\\'m using only one button to use 3 skills. Just an FYI because like someone said, just because games like shooters utilize L2+R2 does not mean every game is capable of it. As it is the PS3s limited memory will not even allow us a keyboard and mouse interface.
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  9. #29
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xSinful_Snake View Post
    You guys just need to use macros. For example I am a dragoon. One of my main combos is:

    Impulse Drive > Disembowel > Chaos Thrust

    Instead of having the abilities on my bar taking up 3 spaces, I just made a macro:



    And added that macro to crossbar. Now I\\'m using only one button to use 3 skills. Just an FYI because like someone said, just because games like shooters utilize L2+R2 does not mean every game is capable of it. As it is the PS3s limited memory will not even allow us a keyboard and mouse interface.
    A) DUST 514 allows kb/mouse on PS3.
    B) Macros like that represent pretty sizeable dps losses (cus its not actually 3 seconds between gcds).
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  10. #30
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    Volux Er'drexus
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 44
    Quote Originally Posted by PiedPiper View Post
    If they can't/won't add another bar, i would be fine if there was a normal hotbar I could set on one side and assign skills too that would just let me see them. Could place long cool downs/situational skills here, see them light up, R1 swap, use, go back.
    You can do this on PC for sure. Not sure exactly where but somewhere in hotbar settings you can add 7 and 8 to be onscreen (they are the vertical hotbars) to the side of the cross hotbar. You can also set it so unassigned boxes are hidden.

    I play with controller on PC and once i figured this out made my life so much better combined with my macros. I have an all inclusive buff macro but i can see the CD's for each of them individually on the side as well as an OGCD ability i have macro'd that I know when to hit without spamming endlessly guessing when its CD refreshes.
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