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  1. #21
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    MrSmiley's Avatar
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    issue is even while raising they cannot be healed while they can be hit and killed. Also, "not dying" as a solution is silly, you think people will all be running flawless raids?
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  2. #22
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    silverhope's Avatar
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    Meg Xori
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    doesnt WHM have spell speed skill ? as for SCH I simply: Swiftcast->raise

    otherwise the only solution I can use is SS myself first before raise as a WHM
    The issue is not in the cast time but the time it takes after the dead person accepts said rez and had a 8 seconds wait before they can do anything but can be killed in the process.
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  3. #23
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    The issue is not in the cast time but the time it takes after the dead person accepts said rez and had a 8 seconds wait before they can do anything but can be killed in the process.
    oh that, sorry for the miss understand of the main topic
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  4. 09-09-2013 07:25 PM

  5. #24
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    Luda's Avatar
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    Luda Kusunoki
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    Gungnir
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    It is a pain in the ass Raising someone or getting raised yourself only to die again because you can't move to get healed for a second or two.
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  6. #25
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    AreeSoothsayer's Avatar
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    Aree Soothsayer
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    Masamune
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    issue is even while raising they cannot be healed while they can be hit and killed. Also, "not dying" as a solution is silly, you think people will all be running flawless raids?
    This right here is the issue. Also why I used a frypan earlier. When raised they are IMMUNE to all assistance however they are 150% open to attack. They can't move. They can't be healed. They can take AoE damage. They can be single targetted for range damage. I know this because I'm in the habit of watching arrows so I know who to start healing before they actually hit. When I see an arrow arc through the air right at the person I just raised...

    SON OF A BITCH ASS WHORE!

    goes right through my head every time.
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  7. #26
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    Nayto's Avatar
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    Blake Ater
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 65
    I think animation isn't the issue, just more of how vulnerable you are.

    I'd say throw in a temporary invincible time of 1 GCD unit at least after raise animation is complete, or make it so you can actually cast on people during their raise animation (such as Stoneskin... and that would be one of the FEW times it would be REALLY helpful).
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  8. #27
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    Aree Soothsayer
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    Masamune
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Oh and AoE heals don't work, tried it.
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  9. #28
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    +1. The raised one should be invulnerable untill he can move. The weakened status, the raise mp cost are enough penalty. And instarez has cooldown of 60 seconds, otherwise u rather die than finish rezzing.
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  10. #29
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    Nuala Moray
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    Pugilist Lv 46
    I've not yet done later to end-game content where raises during take place, but is it possible for the person who gets the raise to wait to accept until a timer from the boss goes off? This, of course, only until a fix for this can be implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minihalcyon
    "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

    These evil people know this, so they try to discourage you to "do nothing" by saying "deal with it," or "be a man." The more you know.

  11. #30
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    Adrianna Bellini
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Straiya View Post
    I've not yet done later to end-game content where raises during take place, but is it possible for the person who gets the raise to wait to accept until a timer from the boss goes off? This, of course, only until a fix for this can be implemented.
    Yeah, once someone casts Raise on you, a box pops up on-screen where you click a button to 'accept' the Raise. Once you click it, you're brought back to life. In the heat of battle, though, a lot of people just insta-click the Accept button without considering the upcoming AoEs and very frequently get killed again before they can move / before the healer can heal them.
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