Why is SMN DPS so high?

[glim]

lol, believe what you want, that is your own perogative. if you still want to deny this then go ahead, it's already been claimed to be true by a few people in this thread, I'm not gonna go out of my way to make a video about it, I don't even know how to make a video, nor I'm gonna talk my mates into doing this run again just to show you that it's true especially now that we're already capped for the week.

[Mindcl0ud]

MY group also kills the boss before bees spawn. On another note - we also only have to kill one add on the first boss. We burn him before he spawns a second ( before the big rock guy ) then burn him before he spawns more then one add after big rock guy.

[Raistlin1982]

All of you think summon is ok dps Show me prove it, make a video lets see the dps. Or just take 2 summoners too the demon wall i wanna see you beat it...........

[glim]

the problem why people see summoners as a weak class, because when playing them, they don't feel strong, emphasis on the word "feel". their damage sources are everywhere, dots pets and measly ruins, what people fail to do is add all of them together, as to BLM, their damage source comes from them alone, so you wouldn't be surprised seeing big numbers and you really would "feel" like a nuking class, which they are.


example.

player mage: Boom! I just critted 50k damage. I'm leetz!

player necromancer: sigh.. my dots are only hitting 20k.. my normal attack is 15k and my pet even hits as much as I hit, 15k... when am I gonna get 50k attacks!!! ='(

"At the moment I start with Shadowflare under the mob, then BioII > Miasma > Bio > Fester > Thunder > MiasmaII > Contagion. (I only use Miasma 2 on a single target if I can contagion it, figures while the potency is low it's still free damage) Then I throw in Ruins while Fester is on cooldown"

you're doing fine, there's only a slight difference of what I do compared to yours.

BIOII>MIASMA>BIO>Fester+Energydrain>Thunder>Contagion>RUIN II (so you can cast your pet buffs)>Fester+aetherflow, >Ruin II again(to cast swiftcast)>Shadowflare.

I only hardcast shadowflare before the fight if the tanks make a countdown, I cast it at the "321". I'm still getting used to miasma II + contagion, so I haven't added it in my starting rotation. and mind you I only use energy drain just once and only at the start of the fight because of too much aetherflows at the beggining that you have to burn it so that you can get your aetherflow cd running.

[glim]

I also don't always cast shadowflare, I only do if I know that the boss will stay at place for at least 12-15 seconds. titan is a good example, demon wall. etc.

[Nemhy]

I also don't always cast shadowflare, I only do if I know that the boss will stay at place for at least 12-15 seconds. titan is a good example, demon wall. etc.

yea, for Garuda I only use it in the start and when the Eye of the Storm phase happens. For Demon wall does it still damage him when he moves forward since he's so fat? wondering if I need to recast it every time he moves or if I can just leave it.

Yea I only use energy drain after ressing people because my MP takes such a large hit, or if I've been doing Ruin+RuinII combos as filler inbetween Festers. ATM my gear is SLIGHTLY outdated...(AF chest and head). I didn't want the Darklight Cowl because it didn't give crit and I am prioritizing that as my second stat, will be getting Summoner's Coat soon and HOPEFULLY Vanya's hat with crit materia. What do you do for Garuda Plumes or Titan tombs? just general stuff that needs to be bursted down ASAP.

[Aiyza]

I don't understand why people are already naming top dps when there is no official clean cut parser out there. Until there are addons in game that show proper dps count and everyone is also geared at the same level, there is no absolute definition of who the top dps class is. People are jumping to conclusions too quick without no dead on information =/

[glim]

@nemhy

^good choice, I'm getting my AF+1 chest next week and I'll try to get a crafted high quaity helm piece (vanya wizard hat or something). I got the dark light because I was ignorant about the stats a few days ago, and that it looks cool (lol).

garuda plumes are terrific for us, already have shadowflare casted before she teleports to AoE everyone, bane spread and miasma does the trick once plumes have spawned. for garuda's plumes (the spread out plumes), I cast a full dot on one and hope that that specific plume will go next to another. once the plumes are grouped up, I look for the place where there's a lot of them and I swiftcast shadowflare and miasma.

for titan tombs, smns aren't that strong for tombs, but our group had good dps that they did not even need me to help, I just try to help with ruins and if we need to get the tomb asap, I let in an energy drain in there.

for things that needs to be bursted down asap, we just do what we can, if your group has mediocre dps, you can choose to do a full rotation of dots so you can get in a fester in it, or if the group has high dps and the ads only last 5-6 seconds, then just get in a ruin or two in there.

I'm not saying all of this stuff is the best possible way to handle situations, I'm just telling you what I personally do.

[Nemhy]

@nemhy
garuda plumes are terrific for us, already have shadowflare casted before she teleports to AoE everyone, bane spread and miasma does the trick once plumes have spawned. for garuda's plumes (the spread out plumes), I cast a full dot on one and hope that that specific plume will go next to another. once the plumes are grouped up, I look for the place where there's a lot of them and I swiftcast shadowflare and miasma.

My main issue is that I can't seem to time it so my DoTs are in high duration before she jumps to one of her Attacks so while I may be able to Bane...they run out really soon. Is there a trick to this or do I just need to feel it out? Also I feel like bane doesn't reach all of them...even while they're still on her before she throws them out.

[glim]

My main issue is that I can't seem to time it so my DoTs are in high duration before she jumps to one of her Attacks so while I may be able to Bane...they run out really soon. Is there a trick to this or do I just need to feel it out? Also I feel like bane doesn't reach all of them...even while they're still on her before she throws them out.

yeah I had this problem as well, especially if she attacks you with her windblade while casting bio II on her. here's what I do, once she finishes casting her aoe, I cast surecast and get out to be line in sight with her to do my full dots, then once plumes are out I wait for like .5-1 second before casting bane, so that she finishes summoning all her plumes and all of them will get hit by bane.