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  1. #1
    Player
    Qornut's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Primal Guardian
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 49
    SMN need instant Miasma and Bio II, and Bane shouldn't cost Aetherflow stack. I'm already 49 Summoner, an see Bards, Black Mages an even White mages spamming Holy output they do put DPS Summoner to Shame on Fate Partys. Kinda Sad to see that.

    We only standout on bosses, lol not bad thing
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    Bamfking's Avatar
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    Saishoku Beast
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Raging Strikes + Mega-Potion of Intelligence HQ = 1k+ Festers and consistently rotating DoTs. I feel like my DPS is quite high and outshines most classes even if it wasn't the greatest, I have tons of mobility without lost of DPS even with 2.5 cast times. Making sure Spur + Rouse is on a marco together makes maxing garuda even easier in fights, and with echoes I never miss a pop. Not to mention I can help tanks by buffing their defenses and I'm also a excellent battle resser, helping the load that healers have to deal with.
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    alphamax112's Avatar
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    Character
    Kim Taeyeon
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Im pretty new to SMN class, care to share your rotation in order to get that kind of high dps?
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    Thotor's Avatar
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    Faeldi Chantelune
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    With Amdapor Keep gear and relic weapon, I'm consistently pulling around 250 DPS on all primals. Other classes with similar gear are capping out around 160-180.
    FFXIV-App is broken. Don't get your hopes too high.
    SMN currently gets all DoTs damage from everyone in the party making them look bigger than what they really are.
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    Malix's Avatar
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    Malix Farwin
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    FFXIV-App is broken. Don't get your hopes too high.
    SMN currently gets all DoTs damage from everyone in the party making them look bigger than what they really are.
    Not true, since it is simulating DoTs it is in fact impossible for it to do what you claim it is doing. Gotta love this community tho, when it was not simulating your DoTs everyone was all like "smn sucks brd is top". When it finally simulates our DoTs the community is like "ffxiv-app is broken".
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    Thotor's Avatar
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Malix View Post
    Not true, since it is simulating DoTs it is in fact impossible for it to do what you claim it is doing. Gotta love this community tho, when it was not simulating your DoTs everyone was all like "smn sucks brd is top". When it finally simulates our DoTs the community is like "ffxiv-app is broken".
    Did you even run it lately ?
    My DoTs damage as bard is like 300-1000 when before I did over 10k dmg.
    If you look at all skills used, you will see ONLY Bio and Bio II doing damage. All DoTs from every party member is accumulated on Bio II.
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    Hov's Avatar
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    Hov Rp
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Malix View Post
    Not true, since it is simulating DoTs it is in fact impossible for it to do what you claim it is doing.
    zzz its easy to test literally just look at the data. Someone posted this boasting about their awesome dps.
    http://s24.postimg.org/5rfycpjpx/DPS_Detailed.png

    "The dps meter is great but its currently riddled with bugs dots are simulated because the game doesnt show the ticks in the battle log. A recent update broke summoner dots bad. Look for yourself Ruin is an 80 potency nuke bio is a 40 potency tick. Your avg ruin hit was 160 your avg bio tick is 236. I dont know what is causing the bug but it was saying my friend was doing 500dps with his bio 1 ticking for 1k. "

    Numbers dont lie with that data Bio should hit for 80 dmg.
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    Last edited by Hov; 09-10-2013 at 04:16 AM.

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    Malix's Avatar
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    Character
    Malix Farwin
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hov View Post
    zzz its easy to test literally just look at the data. Someone posted this boasting about their awesome dps.
    http://s24.postimg.org/5rfycpjpx/DPS_Detailed.png

    "The dps meter is great but its currently riddled with bugs ill have 20-40 attacks per boss fight that dont get counted because I weave fast. Also dots are simulated because the game doesnt show the ticks in the battle log. A recent update broke summoner dots bad. Look for yourself Ruin is an 80 potency nuke bio is a 40 potency tick. Your avg ruin hit was 160 your avg bio tick is 236. I dont know what is causing the bug but it was saying my friend was doing 500dps with his bio 1 ticking for 1k. "

    Numbers dont lie with that data Bio should hit for 80 dmg.
    Hmmm I ran it and tested it last last night and mines is not bugging like that but than again im not using it in a party setting lol, i guess ill screenshot it next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    Did you even run it lately ?
    My DoTs damage as bard is like 300-1000 when before I did over 10k dmg.
    If you look at all skills used, you will see ONLY Bio and Bio II doing damage. All DoTs from every party member is accumulated on Bio II.
    it means the simulation is off, it does not mean that its taking your DoTs damage and giving them to SMN.
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    Last edited by Malix; 09-10-2013 at 03:02 AM.

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    Player
    Hov's Avatar
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    Hov Rp
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Malix View Post
    it means the simulation is off, it does not mean that its taking your DoTs damage and giving them to SMN.
    You said you only ran the parser solo last night but the patch before last everyone dots in the party didnt count and smn were parsing 500dps. They hotfixed it but its still bugged and bio and bio 2 are showing too much dmg.
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    Mindcl0ud's Avatar
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    Character
    Vyn Venture
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    inb4 summoners are broken with too much DPS. Everyone is falling into place right now and they will release more info / add ons at a later time. I know I was doing good DPS - but all the threads on here for the past two weeks were how "bad summoners are " and now it's going to turn into a cry fest of how "op summoners are" because of the meters.

    The meters are probably still a bit broken, and will be fixed over time. For now, know that summoners look to be doing mid-high end DPS and also bring a good amount of versatility. In a stop and go fight ( Garuda ) we have DoT's ticking on her while we can ruin / fester and BLMs only get to cast 1 fire before having to much too much during tornado phase. Let it all settle and we will see where we are. We could also be totally OP and broken, and Square is just finding out :P
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